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#21 (permalink) Old 12-16-2012, 10:37 AM
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There need to be three things present to start a fire, oxygen, fuel and an ignition source. If a fire already exists under the hood, all three requirements are already present and are being met. The hood liner is treated with FLAME RETARDANT, so if it drops onto the engine, one requirement (oxygen) is immediately limited by oxygen displacement. While it may not put an engine fire out, it may provide occupants more time to escape the vehicle.
I worked in a laboratory that designed and tested flame retardant compounds used to coat automotive interior fabrics (mostly GM). I witnessed many successful and disastrous tests performed as a result of combining different chemical compounds with various substrates under strictly controlled conditions. I can tell you the main way flame retardants work is called Limiting Oxygen Index (LOI). I've little doubt that a hood liner treated with flame retardant material will, at a minimum, delay the progress of an engine compartment fire. Nobody plans on a fire happening, but if one does occur, seconds can make a difference to allow the vehicles' occupants more time to escape.
In this particular case, IMO, that salesman knew EXACTLY what he was talking about!

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Another case of someone that won't admit when they are wrong. I read the entire thread and haven't seen the OP admit that he's more of a noob than the sales guy that he was trying to make look like one.

It's funny that you still call the guy an idiot when he knows the facts and you don't.

I just typed this on the internet too. Whatever that means. LOL

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To me it is not a question of whether it works or not but who wants to think a car will catch on fire? If someone opens up with that line you have to think what incident prompted this. That does not help buyer confidence. That is almost anti salesmanship.
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Originally Posted by Tim_K View Post
Yes, this salesman might have let a little secret slip out there. Darts have a problem with engine fires?

If he felt the need to mention the fire-supression abilities of the under hood mat, then maybe there is something bigger behind this that we don't know about yet, and it won't be made public until we start seeing Darts in minor front end collisions with the whole front half of the car burned up.

The Dart is really a modified Alfa Romeo, not an original Chrysler design, and it may carry with it flaws, because European cars don't have the same safety standards over there.
A "good" salesman will show all safety features on a car, even the ones that show you why the hood won't come up through the windshield and decapitate you in a front end collision!

The realities are that some folks, just don't need, or use their heads much. It is hard eating a little humble pie

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Originally Posted by rscarawa View Post
To me it is not a question of whether it works or not but who wants to think a car will catch on fire? If someone opens up with that line you have to think what incident prompted this. That does not help buyer confidence. That is almost anti salesmanship.
Don't read into it to much most all chrysler products have it now

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Potential buyer walks in to test drive a Dart.

Salesman Josh: Welcome to Dodge, how can I help you?
Customer: Looking to drive a Dart"
Josh: You are in luck. We have many of them. Let me show you some features you may not be aware of.
Customer: Sure.
Josh: (Lifting the hood), notice this little loop on the engine. That is an engine lift loop. You 'should' not need that though.
Customer (Why the heck is he showing me that?)

Oddly, I have seem many engines with engine lift loops on them. They were used to put the engine in and they left it in place since it did not cost much.
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Salesman walks into a bar and sees a pretty woman that peaks his interest.
He starts with an ice breaker "What is the deal with genital warts?"

Pretty girl abruptly leaves.

The deal is now closed!

Comedy is not my full time job so cut me some slack.
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I hope my tax dollars didn't have anything to do with funding that study.

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Originally Posted by Cuda View Post
That must be in the salesman training manual as my salesman said the same thing about the fasteners on my Challenger as he was showing it and going over the features, but it made sense to me, then the idiot proceeds to slam the hood shut from 3 feet up with an earth shattering boom, I about lost it on him then and after my scolding session was over I made him raise it back up so I could look for damage, then I showed him it can be shut with a gentle push.
...its better to drop the hood shut holding it ~ 10-12". The hood is aluminum and can dent easier since the material is softer than steel.

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oh! this is such a good Sunday afternoon thread;

LMAO,,,, literally;

Don't beat around the bush!

An apology for being an arrogant righteous person in that particular moment needs to be acknowledged and dealt with

I think a dollar breakfast to the kid from our beloved franchises such as Dunkin' Do is in order along with a "hey, i was a ***** to you on a challenger forum but you and I are better than that"

Lift the holiday spirit up buddy because with the Sh**t going on the news we don't need to read more of you are right he is wrong

Raise up and do the right thing

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