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09-29-2016 06:01 AM
t10delta Alright, so here's the update:


Got my Challenger back yesterday and aside from the service department not being worth a wooden nickel, here's the scoop. Naturally, the timing chain, guide, and tensioner were replaced. After the campaign work was completed, cylinder 5 began to misfire. After testing and monitoring, the left side valve tappets were replaced, but cylinder 5 continued to misfire intermittently. The Transmission Control Module was updated and reprogramed and the Powertrain Control Module was replaced. Cylinder 5 continued to misfire. The intake manifold gasket and head gaskets were replaced and the crankshaft/camshaft sensors replaced. This apparently stopped the misfire. So far, so good. Didn't have room in rush hour traffic to open her up and see how she performed, but I'll be taking her on the freeway tonight to test it out.


On a more personal note, I got the vehicle back dirty, on empty (had 1/3 of a tank when they got it) and the anti-theft code needed to be entered in. It took the dealer 30 minutes to run down the code and I'm supposed to be getting a check in the mail to recoup fuel costs. I'm more glad that I got the car away from that service department than I am that the repairs are completed.


Thanks to 19johned53 and Andrea from Chrysler for your help!
09-28-2016 08:22 AM
DodgeCares
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So I called the dealership back today as I didn't hear from them yesterday and this time actually asked about the parts. They replaced the PCM yesterday and the engine was still misfiring. They've sent it back to the heavy engine tech and there is no ETA on when repairs will be completed. At this point, I'm beginning to get concerned about having long-term problems with her. She doesn't even have 20k miles on her - though admittedly I could be being an alarmist over this because I'm super protective of that car.
Hi t10delta,

I'd happy to follow up with your dealership for you. Just PM our page with your VIN and contact information and let me know!

Andrea
Dodge Social Care Specialist
09-27-2016 03:24 PM
t10delta
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So I called the dealership back today as I didn't hear from them yesterday and this time actually asked about the parts. They replaced the PCM yesterday and the engine was still misfiring. They've sent it back to the heavy engine tech and there is no ETA on when repairs will be completed. At this point, I'm beginning to get concerned about having long-term problems with her. She doesn't even have 20k miles on her - though admittedly I could be being an alarmist over this because I'm super protective of that car.

Perfectly understandable. It's your ride, and pride and joy.


Did your car have a misfire before you brought it in for the P01?
The only symptom that was present before I took her in was I felt that certain tug when I would slow down before turning on my street. Aside from that, maybe a lifter acting up.
09-27-2016 01:48 PM
19johned53
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So I called the dealership back today as I didn't hear from them yesterday and this time actually asked about the parts. They replaced the PCM yesterday and the engine was still misfiring. They've sent it back to the heavy engine tech and there is no ETA on when repairs will be completed. At this point, I'm beginning to get concerned about having long-term problems with her. She doesn't even have 20k miles on her - though admittedly I could be being an alarmist over this because I'm super protective of that car.

Perfectly understandable. It's your ride, and pride and joy.


Did your car have a misfire before you brought it in for the P01?
09-27-2016 10:50 AM
t10delta
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Sorry about that, and keep us posted on how things go.
So I called the dealership back today as I didn't hear from them yesterday and this time actually asked about the parts. They replaced the PCM yesterday and the engine was still misfiring. They've sent it back to the heavy engine tech and there is no ETA on when repairs will be completed. At this point, I'm beginning to get concerned about having long-term problems with her. She doesn't even have 20k miles on her - though admittedly I could be being an alarmist over this because I'm super protective of that car.
09-23-2016 07:29 AM
19johned53 Sorry about that, and keep us posted on how things go.
09-23-2016 07:14 AM
t10delta
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All the TC's are the same. Only one way that a new TC can cause a "misfire"................the tech didn't line the timing marks up correctly when installing the new chain.


Can't blame that on a part!


LOL Good, that's really comforting...


Either way, thanks for the reply!
09-22-2016 10:57 PM
19johned53
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So I've been sitting on my recall notice for Amy, my 2013 R/T, about a month or so because, well, I didn't want to deal with it. Finally took her in this Monday the 19th, got a halfway decent loaner vehicle and all is well and good right? Well, today rolls around and I haven't heard back yet so I give the dealership a call. She won't be done until Monday the 26th because they had to order some parts.

Apparently with the new timing chain, it's been causing misfires in the past so now they're testing for that and replacing whatever part. Unfortunately the phone call was breaking up and I didn't catch exactly which part he said it was, but I was not happy when he said that they assume that's what is causing the problem, but they aren't really sure. Did a search through this thread about it, but didn't see much about misfiring. Anyone have some insight? I'm a garage mechanic at best, so if someone has the knowledge I'm looking for, please share.

All the TC's are the same. Only one way that a new TC can cause a "misfire"................the tech didn't line the timing marks up correctly when installing the new chain.


Can't blame that on a part!
09-22-2016 12:38 PM
t10delta
Misfiring Issues

So I've been sitting on my recall notice for Amy, my 2013 R/T, about a month or so because, well, I didn't want to deal with it. Finally took her in this Monday the 19th, got a halfway decent loaner vehicle and all is well and good right? Well, today rolls around and I haven't heard back yet so I give the dealership a call. She won't be done until Monday the 26th because they had to order some parts.

Apparently with the new timing chain, it's been causing misfires in the past so now they're testing for that and replacing whatever part. Unfortunately the phone call was breaking up and I didn't catch exactly which part he said it was, but I was not happy when he said that they assume that's what is causing the problem, but they aren't really sure. Did a search through this thread about it, but didn't see much about misfiring. Anyone have some insight? I'm a garage mechanic at best, so if someone has the knowledge I'm looking for, please share.
09-12-2016 01:24 PM
19johned53 I see why the P01 was extended into '13, as that's the old style part that we all were told was replaced with the aluminum unit.


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