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08-11-2016 01:18 AM
08blackrt My car had, I think, 43K on it when it was done, it had no signs anything was wrong, but it was just about ready to go. It didn't seem any different at all after it was done, and the only way I know anything was changed was the water pump was cleaned up and they showed me the chain. I don't think I'll ever get used to that flimsy looking chain that's on most engines now. I remember the Cloyes roller chains I put on a couple of my engines in the past. No worries about them breaking.
08-01-2016 02:04 PM
19johned53 Thanks for the update, and that's great to hear.


The "tug" went away when I had the P01 done on my '10. Keep us posted on yours.
08-01-2016 01:51 PM
FWB I picked up my R/T today after the dealer performed the P01 campaign. The car never had any issues with the timing chain, although there was a slight "tug" when the MDS was active at times.

Surprisingly, the guide that was taken off my car was the complete black plastic guide. I thought this was the original design (not being one of the updated parts) and assumed my car had the revised guide from factory? My car was built on October 2012.

The '13s were only recently included in the campaign so I assume FCA figured that the guide might not have made its way on to the late 2012 build cars.

I thought I'd share this in case it might add some information to this thread.

Also checked engine oil (was replaced by the dealer) and coolant (replaced NOT reused) and they were both on spot. Car drives exactly the same with no power loss issues that a few have suffered here after the recall being done due to the timing being a bit off. I will listen to the engine more carefully when it gets into MDS mode to see if I still have the "tug".

Hats off to FCA for fixing this issue

EDIT: The tech said that there were no signs of wear on the guide (I believe he just said that without inspecting and not to have me worried). The guide was on the table and I couldn't take a very close look at it to check for wear signs.

In addition, my car currently has about 41,000 miles on it.
07-12-2016 09:35 PM
pdx.challenger
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Sadly the next closest ones are managed by the two most recent service managers that were let go from this one. They are on their 4th manager in 6 months and not getting any better.
I'm gonna have to somehow find the time to take it to Seattle to get it looked at as that is the closest competent dealer from what I've been told. Dealers here suck. But, I'll do what I have to, to get someone to listen to me.
With the high turnover, maybe it's more the dealership's fault than the service managers'.
07-12-2016 08:18 PM
StingerRT/C Sadly the next closest ones are managed by the two most recent service managers that were let go from this one. They are on their 4th manager in 6 months and not getting any better.
I'm gonna have to somehow find the time to take it to Seattle to get it looked at as that is the closest competent dealer from what I've been told. Dealers here suck. But, I'll do what I have to, to get someone to listen to me.
07-12-2016 11:36 AM
pdx.challenger
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So, this is what my local Dealerships are calling normal on the 5.7 HEMIs... I know damn well this isn't what it used to sound like. Bought it brand new off the showroom floor and it always ran smooth and emitted music to my ears (after cutbacks of course). Though, when I requested they bring up some of the 5.7s on the lot, they flat told me, "we don't have any on the lot". I called BS and pointed out 7 R/Ts sitting up front. They wouldn't bring them over because they are a different model year and are different engines... Will be writing Chrysler Corporate about these stealerships here along with over 2 dozen local county owners of Mopars with their experiences there. Just sitting here driving my Challenger until it blows itself up I guess...Got 2 more years of warranty left...
Did you take it to a different (more competent) dealership?
07-12-2016 12:18 AM
StingerRT/C
These mechanics are idiots

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https://youtu.be/mug_-vFqYHA <<<<Still can't believe this...
So, this is what my local Dealerships are calling normal on the 5.7 HEMIs... I know damn well this isn't what it used to sound like. Bought it brand new off the showroom floor and it always ran smooth and emitted music to my ears (after cutbacks of course). Though, when I requested they bring up some of the 5.7s on the lot, they flat told me, "we don't have any on the lot". I called BS and pointed out 7 R/Ts sitting up front. They wouldn't bring them over because they are a different model year and are different engines... Will be writing Chrysler Corporate about these stealerships here along with over 2 dozen local county owners of Mopars with their experiences there. Just sitting here driving my Challenger until it blows itself up I guess...Got 2 more years of warranty left...
06-11-2016 05:30 AM
bwbike
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Hmmmm, I'll have them look at it and let them tell me what they think it is. I don't want to skew their judgment. Though, after I get a diagnosis Ill mention that too.
You'd know it if the water pump is bad by looking at it while the engine is running. If its bearings are bad (what failed in mine), you'll see the belt pulley wobble/vibrate and the noise will be coming from there. There should be no play in the pulley while the engine is off; Mine wiggled.
06-10-2016 10:05 PM
StingerRT/C
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I would check your water pump. Mine failed at around 45,000 miles on my 2009 R/T. It made terrible noise for about 60 miles and finally spewed coolant as I was pulling into my garage. Repaired under warranty.
Hmmmm, I'll have them look at it and let them tell me what they think it is. I don't want to skew their judgment. Though, after I get a diagnosis Ill mention that too.
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To stinger
If you haven't had the P01 campaign do everything get it done
The plastic guides wear and the updated part won't. Your '10 would have the black plastic guide
That could possibly be the chain with excess slack rubbing on something inside the timing cover
I just checked Dodge.com and came back with "No Outstanding Recalls or Customer Satisfaction Notifications Exist." message on my 2012. Hmmmm I will push the P01 campaign. As rampant as this is, I would think this should be a dang recall by now. What on earth is Dodge doing? Again, 40k miles should still be brand new on any modern vehicle nowadays. This is my daily driver, and I NEED it everyday.

Thanks for the advice guys...continuing this adventure. Will update to keep the counts on the first post up to date.
06-10-2016 07:30 PM
Hal H To stinger
If you haven't had the P01 campaign do everything get it done

The plastic guides wear and the updated part won't. Your '12 would have the black plastic guide

That noise you mention could possibly be the chain with excess slack rubbing on something inside the timing cover
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