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The name Matthew and Matthews

When it comes to first name, it's Matthew.

When it comes to last name, it's more common to be Matthews. But there are some with the last name Matthew.

Does anyone know the history behind why there is a "S"? It is just last names are often plural? So the name Matthew became Matthews.

Which was first, and original?

When people came through Ellis Island, all sorts of European names were modified or chopped up.

I tried the web, and it's all over the place. Both are in use now, but I just want to know the history.

Anyone here with this name or last name? Any info you can share?

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The final "s" where appropriate, is a reduced form of "son of", although curiously the full patronymic is not recorded until the early 15th Century when John Matheuson appears in the register of the Freemen of York in the year 1416.
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Has anybody ever been named Matthew Matthews?

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Most Italians in the US are called Tony. This is because when they were on the ship in Italy and heading over to Ellis Island, they had "To NY" stamped on their foreheads. I always laugh at that one !

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Thank you. Now, please help me understand what I'm reading. Too complex for me.

"The final "s" where appropriate, is a reduced form of "son of"


Does this mean a son of Matthew (no S) was later called MatthewS?
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Surnames were often created from occupations, or first names. Hence Cooper, Potter or Smith. Johnson, which began as a son of John. Matthews was therefore begun as son of Mathew. The son (not Matthewson) was shortened to s. Matthews.

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Educate me.

Let's use Johnson as the example which was the Son of John.

For my understanding, did they at one time address people as "Son of John?" "Son of Matthew?" "Son of Richard."

If that is correct, then that make sense to address the Man (of the house). And then his male child, would have the same name.

How about Son of John's daughters? Does she have the name "Son of John?"

From what you know, thing or guess, is that how it worked back then?
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I was very young in ancient times, and cannot remember Names developed a lot from religious meanings and such. For instance, it wasn't necessarily John who started calling his son Johnson, but rather others. People often were known by where they came from etc. How names originated and came into use may be well documented, but it's not something I have extensive knowledge in

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Johnson is an English patronymic name meaning "son of John (gift of God)." The name John derives from the Latin Johannes, which is derived from the Hebrew Yohanan meaning "Jehovah has favored."

The suffix meaning "son," creates several different variations of the Johnson surname. Examples: English son, Norwegian sen, German sohn, and Swedish sson. Jones is the common Welsh version of this surname.

The JOHNSON surname may also be an Anglicisation of the Gaelic surname MacSeain or MacShane.

Johnson was a very popular name among Christians, given the many saints named John, including St. John the Baptist and St. John the Evangelist.
https://www.thoughtco.com/johnson-na...origin-1422677

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