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Buy Scat Pack with Replacement Engine?

Hey guys I need your help!

My lease is ending soon on my Challenger R/T and I've made the decision to upgrade to a Scat Pack this time around. I've only come across one with a manual transmission in B5 Blue within 300 miles and before I made the trip out there, the salesman told me it was currently in the shop having the engine replaced due to it being assembled incorrectly at the plant. He assured me they're replacing it with a brand new motor and not a rebuilt one. He also added he would work with me on getting a great deal because of the hassle.

If it wasn't so difficult to find one in B5 with a manual transmission I wouldn't give it a second thought, but its exactly what I'm looking for. I'd like to hear from you guys on what you would do or any thoughts and concerns.
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The only way I would buy that car is if they showed proof that it had never been sold, proof that the engine is brand new and not rebuilt, and if they provide a long extended warranty.

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Agreed, but still might pass. A lot of dealers may beat the heck out the car during this engine swap.

Bottom line to me, it's not a new car anymore.


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Run away from car. Run far run fast. Just order the car you want and be done with it. Why take the chance. If they put the motor in wrong, what else did they do wrong? How did the dealer know the motor was put in wrong just by driving it off of the car carrier? Someone had to have owned the car for at least a day to drive it and find problems. Run away.
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All of the above, PLUS the fact that you may have issues down the road trying to reassure a buyer that the reason the VIN # on the engine block doesn't match the build sheet had nothing to do with the car during YOUR ownership of it.

Walk, don't run...unless they give you an absolute steal of a deal, and even then....all of the above.


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Hey guys I need your help!

My lease is ending soon on my challenger RT and I've made the decision to upgrade to a Scat Pack this time around. I've only come across one with a manual transmission in B5 Blue within 300 miles and before I made the trip out there, the salesman told me it was currently in the shop having the engine replaced due to it being assembled incorrectly at the plant. He assured me they're replacing it with a brand new motor and not a rebuilt one. He also added he would work with me on getting a great deal because of the hassle.

If it wasn't so difficult to find one in B5 with a manual transmission I wouldn't give it a second thought, but its exactly what I'm looking for. I'd like to hear from you guys on what you would do or any thoughts and concerns.

Dodge may be different but generally a replacement engine replaced under warranty can be a brand new engine -- never installed in a vehicle -- or it can be a rebuilt one either one that failed some inspection on the engine assembly line or even one that was pulled from a car and sent back to Dodge. For instance the engine in the car you are considering will almost certainly go back to Dodge and may be repaired and end up being used to replace an engine at some point.


This covered somewhere in the warranty fine print that no one reads.



The general advice when buying a used car is to avoid a car with a story. The same advice applies when buying a new car. Granted while rare a new car has a story, you should really avoid a new car with a story. The car you considering has a story. You won't know the ending though unless you buy the car and spend some time with the car. By that time you know how the story ends it may be too late if the story doesn't have a happy ending.
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You make some great points and after reading everyones response, I'm going to hold off on purchasing that car. I really appreciate everyone's input!
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The only way I would buy that car is if they showed proof that it had never been sold, proof that the engine is brand new and not rebuilt, and if they provide a long extended warranty.
Excellent advice.

If the motor is a "factory replacement" there is no reason to worry about the engine at all.

How-ever......dropping in a new Engine today isn't the same as in years past when we were talking simple "bolt in" and just a few wires to attach to the starter and ignition.

Today there are just so many little PIA problems that could creep in later to haunt you and possibly cost you pretty big in terms of labor to chase down.

That's your argument to make for the warranty extension for sure.......or enough "EXTRA" off the asking price to buy an extended warranty from Chrysler on your own.

Personally I'd go for more money off on the purchase and then shop the extended warranty. People often underestimate how much better they can do on an extended warranty if they "SHOP" for it rather than buy it form the same dealer at the time of the sale.

There is a lot of markup in the warranty MSRP. You can usually do a lot better than that first price offered by talking your car home and then playing multiple dealers against each other for the best warranty price.
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I liked your approach and called the dealership up and got some additional info. The engine had been making a funny noise and they isolated the issue down to the engine block and rather than replace any parts, Chrysler sent them a brand new crate motor.

I contacted Chrysler and gave them the VIN for the car through the customer care and they couldn't release any info to me since the car was brand new and the dealer still owned it, but in a round about way he said he would have no problem buying that car with the information he read about iut he said he would have no problem buying that car for himself after seeing what had to be done and reassured me the engine was new.

The car has less than 30 miles on the odometer so I'm going to check it out on Sunday and see how she drives. I'll keep everyone updated
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I’d rather have a replaced engine than a repaired engine.

My only concern would be the resale value. So negotiate a little extra off on the front end and negotiate an extended warranty.


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