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odds are the 'Hauler had hundreds of hours of idling time and probably had conventional oil used and that engine has the equivalent of 200K+ on it with all the idling hours plus however it was used in service
I don't remember the exact numbers, but I believe it was something like 12K hours run time when I got the car and half of those were spent idling.

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I'll have you know that NONE of my burn-outs were done as part of a donut or series of donuts. Every single one of them was done in a straight line or not at all!

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then there's the driving over curbs, medians...
Beatniks and hipsters can be pretty erratic when they're surprised or spooked and scatter in all directions They are just as likely to take off running through a field as they are through a parking lot. Either way though, it is up to the pursuit vehicle to follow...whether that be through mud or over a series of parking blocks, no matter.

One thing must always be remembered: Beatniks and hipsters are dangerous creatures and must be locked up, both for their own good and ours!

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most any PD fleet / motor pool manager I've talked to commented on how rough the LEOs are on the vehicles
I had a cop needling me recently after he came upon me sitting in a church parking lot at midnight one night where I was waiting for Mrs. Nuke to bring me some tools so I could get back running. He told me he wasn't surprised my Charger was broke down because every one of the Pursuit Chargers they had in training broke down on them.

That was quite possibly the LEAST helpful comment anyone has ever made to me about the vehicle I was driving.

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I have the A5......I still have the original window sticker and it says I have a 3:08 gear in the back....So i go to Dodge.com for recall information? I'll check it out. Thanks Nuke for the info....
On the surface, I would say yours is possibly one of the ones under recall for the timing chain. Check it out here to be sure though: https://www.mopar.com/en-us/my-vehic...ls/search.html

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I'll have you know that NONE of my burn-outs were done as part of a donut or series of donuts. Every single one of them was done in a straight line or not at all!
Good thing I glazed over your response, I believe the maneuver you describe is called a Long John.

BTW I think I saw you on your way to work this morning.


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Well I used that website with my VIN and only 2 things came up...the alternator recall, whitch I already did...and the airbag recall..it says parts are available so I guess I'll try to get that scheduled.



And that was it..nothing about the timing chain. My car was built in April of 2013 so I guess by then they had corrected the defect on the factory line?


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Well I used that website with my VIN and only 2 things came up...the alternator recall, whitch I already did...and the airbag recall..it says parts are available so I guess I'll try to get that scheduled.
If the alternator recall has already been done, it should not show up on the report still. Did you have the service performed at a Dodge dealership service department? If so, you should call them and let them know some recall work is still showing on your car's report so they can correct it.

It if was not done by a dealership service department, I believe you can submit a request to be reimbursed for the amount you paid (or up to some amount of the bill) to get the recall item replaced. Check that recall page on the dodge site for more details on that.

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And that was it..nothing about the timing chain. My car was built in April of 2013 so I guess by then they had corrected the defect on the factory line?
It sounds like they did have it figured out by then.
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Well it listed the recalls for my car, and it listed a status for each one. For the alternator it said it was completed along with the date, whitch was 20 July 2017, and that is correct. I had it done here at my local Dodge Stealership. Then it had a incomplete for the airbag so I guess now it lists all the recalls and a status if they were done or not. Maybe they changed it since the last time you were on the website Nuke? Anyway I am so relieved about the timing chain...I was afraid I had a ticking time bomb about to go off...literally..
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Well it listed the recalls for my car, and it listed a status for each one. For the alternator it said it was completed along with the date, whitch was 20 July 2017, and that is correct. I had it done here at my local Dodge Stealership. Then it had a incomplete for the airbag so I guess now it lists all the recalls and a status if they were done or not. Maybe they changed it since the last time you were on the website Nuke? Anyway I am so relieved about the timing chain...I was afraid I had a ticking time bomb about to go off...literally..
No, that's fine, I was thinking of a different report where it only listed the ones that were outstanding. As long as the status of the particular recall is correct, you're good to go!
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Likewise, I have a 2012 Challenger SRT8 Yellow Jacket, but with 34,000 miles. Auto trans, I purchased with 31,000 in Dec last year. I've been quoted 3,700 to fix as a lifter in cyl 3 fashioned and chewed up the CAM.

FCA is not willing to help as I don't have enough good faith credit because the car was not serviced at a dealer. Even though I've purchased 3 other Dodge/ Chrysler vehicles in the past 10 yrs.

2 Magnums and a Minivan, lol...

And from what I've been reading this seems to be very common on the auto transmission cars with MDS.



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Yes; FCA is pretty much "radio silent" on this one. It's a bad lifter design in terms of materials and manufacturing.
I have a 6 Spd-Non MDS version, so it's not especially due to the auto/manual choice. The Magnum LA engines had a superior design but it was changed, probably for cost reasons. Change you oil Often, and hope for the best.
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Yes; FCA is pretty much "radio silent" on this one. It's a bad lifter design in terms of materials and manufacturing.
I have a 6 Spd-Non MDS version, so it's not especially due to the auto/manual choice. The Magnum LA engines had a superior design but it was changed, probably for cost reasons. Change you oil Often, and hope for the best.
I really hate how FCA can't own up to this particular failure, since it's absolutely catastrophic and not just a 'replacement'.


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