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Input for Tuning new '19 Scat

What's up guys. As you may have seen me posting, I've got a '19 Challenger Scat Wide on the way... (G STATUS ALREADY BABY). I currently have an '07 R/T that I use a Trinity for tuning. I'm wondering a few things regarding my new car platform. I know I have seen your input regarding needing to buy new PCM, and other modules tracking the PCM serial number, etc... but that being said:

1. What is best tune for performance right now on these cars? Diablosport still making a good one?
2. Ideally would like to use a live-action tuning / logging module similar to Trinity, if I do tune car after its broken in. Suggestions? New Trinity? Something better?

Essentially i'm looking to log and track OBDII parameters when the car is fresh and new, and then possibly to tune it after 15-20k miles.

Thank you!
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What's up guys. As you may have seen me posting, I've got a '19 Challenger Scat Wide on the way... (G STATUS ALREADY BABY). I currently have an '07 R/T that I use a Trinity for tuning. I'm wondering a few things regarding my new car platform. I know I have seen your input regarding needing to buy new PCM, and other modules tracking the PCM serial number, etc... but that being said:

1. What is best tune for performance right now on these cars? Diablosport still making a good one?
2. Ideally would like to use a live-action tuning / logging module similar to Trinity, if I do tune car after its broken in. Suggestions? New Trinity? Something better?

Essentially i'm looking to log and track OBDII parameters when the car is fresh and new, and then possibly to tune it after 15-20k miles.

Thank you!
Greetings and congrats on the new Widebody A good custom tune is better than a canned tune by any measuring stick.

Step 1. Obtain unlocked ECM. Most of us use Diablo.
Step 2. Choose Tuner. I use a Trinity as well. They are now discontinued, but they do all I need it to do. Diablo says the Trinity 2 is far superior and allows many more options. You will have to make that decision.
Step 3. Choose a custom Tuner. Most use Hemifever or Jay Greene. I have used both. I use Jay. Do your research.

Depending on how much performance you need .....you may need a Wideband A/F meter to be able to tweak your mixture on a given day.

I's not sure why you would wait so many miles to tune it? I tuned mine at about 4k on the clock. You may love it so much you may not tune it at all!

I Drag race my 16 Scat so minor mods and a great tune make a huge difference! Be mindful of your warranty and inquire how "strict" your dealership is. Some are pretty tight.....some are very friendly. Enjoy and keep us posted
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Thanks for the response. I was talking about the warranty portion on another thread - and received a resounding NO regarding if FCA covers warranty repairs following a tune. That being said, the dealership I purchased the car from said they would not be too concerned if I used a tune from a place like Diablosport. I would have to talk to them further. Or see if its possible to scrub system modules completely of them "knowing" there was another PCM installed.

I would go for Trinity 2 for sure. My current Trinity will be sold with the car. I would want to break in the engine a bit before tuning. I may change the timeline I don't know. I'm getting a Tazer, Catch-Can and LMI or Hellcat air box, before i even receive car. Ordering this weekend.
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if your warranty is important to you, DON'T TUNE,

every time the dealer connects to your vehicle, everything they see, mother Mopar sees, and the tune will trigger a fault code that cannot be hidden, so the dealer may try to cover a defective or damaged components, but will get a huge surprise when the claim pays and then is charged back......wont be long they will not do it again....

sometime a lesson learned the hard way......

to further that, very common for major components to require images and scan reports to be uploaded to the warranty department,

as well as images of the front crank snout, engine etc

the rule of thumb is, if your going to play, expect to pay......

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if your warranty is important to you, DON'T TUNE,

every time the dealer connects to your vehicle, everything they see, mother Mopar sees, and the tune will trigger a fault code that cannot be hidden, so the dealer may try to cover a defective or damaged components, but will get a huge surprise when the claim pays and then is charged back......wont be long they will not do it again....

sometime a lesson learned the hard way......

to further that, very common for major components to require images and scan reports to be uploaded to the warranty department,

as well as images of the front crank snout, engine etc

the rule of thumb is, if your going to play, expect to pay......
Thanks for the insight Steve. I'll look into whether or not the community / tuning vendors have found a way to scrub the fault code. Everything can be changed in the computer world.
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Thanks for the insight Steve. I'll look into whether or not the community / tuning vendors have found a way to scrub the fault code. Everything can be changed in the computer world.
good luck....
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Thanks for the insight Steve. I'll look into whether or not the community / tuning vendors have found a way to scrub the fault code. Everything can be changed in the computer world.
They can't so stop trying to get around the system. Tune at your own risk and stop looking for ways around it.

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Thanks for the insight Steve. I'll look into whether or not the community / tuning vendors have found a way to scrub the fault code. Everything can be changed in the computer world.
They can't so stop trying to get around the system. Tune at your own risk and stop looking for ways around it.
Some folks want the cake and eat it too.

Mom Mopar may be reading this, and may do a needed "plug in" on one of his dealer visits.

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Thanks for the insight Steve. I'll look into whether or not the community / tuning vendors have found a way to scrub the fault code. Everything can be changed in the computer world.

If you want to tune your new car tune it.



But be aware that the dealer told you a tune, even a "Diablosport" tune, probably not a problem is worth zilch unless it is put into writing and it won't be. You can't believe if a problem came up and the factory said no warranty coverage due to the presence of a tune the dealer would fork over thousands of dollars to cover the problem based on what some employee who might not even be there anymore told you.



Then to read that in the event of a problem you are seeking to engage in fraud against Dodge by masking/hiding the fact you had a tune applied to the engine...


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If you are replacing your ECU like you have to for a tune, then just put the stock one back in when you head in for service....LOL. Am I missing something? This isnt that hard.
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