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Bought my Challenger for the stylish looks it has and the roominess for tall people like me with long legs. It doesn't have the leg room my Ram 3500 dually does but it perfect for a car. The trunk is big they could leave out the rear set that wouldn't bother me. With my seat all the way back there isn't any way someone can sit behind my driver seat. The 2 things they could change is electric set back tilt instead of the lever and auto up on the window switch. Other than that my car is perfect like it is no changes needed leave it alone. If I wanted an electric car I'd have gotten something else to drive. If I wanted to cart more than my woman around I would have gotten a Charge.

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Remember the current chassis is basically a last generation E-series, from 2007 I think, and over a decade of technological development means you can make a chassis strong and still lighter without really having to make it much smaller.

Look at the F150 that I mentioned, they didn't make it smaller, in fact I think it grew a tiny bit, but they cut a ton of weight with a ton of little changes.

Remember the original Charger/Challenger weren't full-size vehicles even for their day, they were still midsize. I believe the Giulia is considered a midsize chassis, and you can always stretch it a tiny bit by making the trunk a little longer for example.
If it doesn't compromise size, then I'm all for it.

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Bought my Challenger for the stylish looks it has and the roominess for tall people like me with long legs. It doesn't have the leg room my Ram 3500 dually does but it perfect for a car. The trunk is big they could leave out the rear set that wouldn't bother me. With my seat all the way back there isn't any way someone can sit behind my driver seat. The 2 things they could change is electric set back tilt instead of the lever and auto up on the window switch. Other than that my car is perfect like it is no changes needed leave it alone. If I wanted an electric car I'd have gotten something else to drive. If I wanted to cart more than my woman around I would have gotten a Charge.
Trust me, I've been in a Charger, there isn't that much space in the back.

If you want something to carry 4 people comfortably, get a Sonata. That thing has leg and headroom for days.
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Trust me, I've been in a Charger, there isn't that much space in the back.

If you want something to carry 4 people comfortably, get a Sonata. That thing has leg and headroom for days.
The Charger is a full size sedan chassis, and the back leg room you mention on the Sonata is less than the Charger. You must have sat in a Charger with the front seats maxed back or something. Just kick the people in the front or flick their ears or something and make them scooch.

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The Charger is a full size sedan chassis, and the back leg room you mention on the Sonata is less than the Charger. You must have sat in a Charger with the front seats maxed back or something. Just kick the people in the front or flick their ears or something and make them scooch.

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Second Head Room : in 38 vs 36.6 (Sonata wins)
Second Leg Room : in 35.6 vs 40.1 (Charger wins)
Second Shoulder Room : in 56.5 vs 57.9 (Charger wins)
Second Hip Room : in 56.1 vs 56.1 (tie)
I've owned a Sonata, my dad has owned a Sonata, and I've sat in the back of my co-workers Scat Pack Charger.

Sonata has more legroom hands down.
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The 200 was heading down the “Reliant K”car path, (no thank you Mr.Iacocca)....I propose bringing back the Magnum, I’m sure SRT would do a superb job on a refresh tweak for a car that folks would definitely buy in a Hellcat trim
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Not sure why the 200 gets so much hate we have one and it's been an awesome car. Been driven to Michigan a couple of times from Oklahoma averaging 80 mph with 30+ mpg with the 3.6L only thing that has broke was a latch for center console. Car is working on 85,000 miles.

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Honestly, Chrysler is pretty rock bottom where it is right now, if it wasn't for the rest of FCA they would have likely gone bankrupt long ago. I think they should embrace hybrid and work towards EV, and adopt 1950's nuclear family, "CAR OF THE FUTURE" vibe and styling.
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That's why I'm impress with the "new" Continental. One would say, the car sucks and failed to come close to BMW, Benz, Lexus. But it's got suicide doors (again.) We can talk about 500hp or g handling, but I think there is a market for "style." That's ultra cool for a car to pull up, and the doors open the other way.
The Continental didn't fail to come close to BMW, MB or Lexus, because it was never the intention. Sadly, only 80 vehicles were built with suicide doors and 8,758 were sold in 2018. It seems that it won't be around much longer.

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One reason we actually went for the Charger over the 300, since originally we weren't even looking at the Scat Pack we ended up with, was because 300s seemed to show up in too many rap videos and transitional neighborhood urban apartment complexes and the like and to me felt like a "ghetto" image, whereas the Charger had more of a retro patriotic americana muscle vibe to it.
The Charger is retro in name only.

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Remember the original Charger/Challenger weren't full-size vehicles even for their day, they were still midsize. I believe the Giulia is considered a midsize chassis, and you can always stretch it a tiny bit by making the trunk a little longer for example.
FCA has stated that none of the Euro platforms will be used on the next generation and instead the current one will be modified. Of course, with FCA that can change depending on the direction the wind is blowing.

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Not sure why the 200 gets so much hate we have one and it's been an awesome car. Been driven to Michigan a couple of times from Oklahoma averaging 80 mph with 30+ mpg with the 3.6L only thing that has broke was a latch for center console. Car is working on 85,000 miles.

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The then FCA CEO (RIP) said the rear headroom was tight. But that's the coupe like styling they were going for. I think he just wanted a reason to build more Jeeps (SUVs) because it was more profitable. The only way was to axe the cars. FCA did spend a lot of $$$ on R&D on the 200. It was a good car. Ok, the 9 speed auto sucks, but that's ZF's fault. Honda has the same issues with the ZF. But Honda finally tuned it right on 2019 (Pilot). 200 never got the chance/attention from FCA to make it work.

I'm sure SUVs are profitable, but 200,000 units of Chrysler 200 can surely keep guys working and pay the electric bill. Nothing wrong with being 4th, 5th, 6th place in mid size sedan sales.

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