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Considering trading in scat pack for hellcat.

Well like the topic says I am considering making a trade up. I am kicking around 2 options of either putting a whipple on the scat or trading into a hellcat. When I consider it, it seems like just trading into a hellcat would be a better decision as its factory setup with the supercharger. I guess my question here is about a year ago it seemed really easy to get a great deal on a hellcat. Is that still true today. I was seeing guys walking off the lot with brand new 2016 models in 2017 for huge discounts. Has that ship sailed? Any buying advice would be appreciated.
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Trade in as opposed to modding. The cost of the supercharger and supporting mods you really need to do more then make up for the initial higher cost of the hellcat.

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You can probably still find those deals, cars.com right now is still showing 17 brand new 2016 Hellcats available and some of those I'm sure you could buy in the $50's. I'd definitely go that route over modding anything.



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Well I am kicking the can around on this one, because my 2015 scat pack is worth low 30's it looks like.... and a hellcat is still 55k ish (providing i get a deal), supercharger and forged pistons 10k providing I do all the labor myself (automotive technician is my trade)..... It would still be a significant difference in cost between upgrading to a hellcat and supercharging the scat. Things like the adaptive suspension and bigger brakes though are a pull and the fact its all factory.... Having a hard decision with this one.
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You can forge out the motor, get a tune, get a blower... and still not make up the difference, and be at almost the same total investment, even if you do your own work.

I’m not a tech, and I have no idea what I’m doing. However, I’m thankful that these cars are super easy to work on inasmuch as the suspension et al. Suffice to say, that if you only compute the parts cost, the Hellcat at a current discount is a great deal, and comes with a warranty. For someone like me that can’t currently do my own tuning and motor work, it’s an even better deal.

To each his own. If you plan on modding like crazy, it may inform the decision. If you want to buy a better platform and work from there (time savings, potentially the same cost, and much of the depreciation has been sucked up already for the ‘16s and ‘17s,) then it might make more sense to trade up.

I plan on hanging onto the scat for the next 15-20 years. If not for that, and having a car to learn on, I would have left it alone and traded it in next year. If you know you’re not hanging on to this car for more than the next five before you’re going to want to trade in, I’d say go for the hellcat.

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I traded up my Scat Pack (2016) for a Hellcat (2017) within 6 months of buying it. I am a 40 year A Tech who could easily do all the work myself. I thought about the warranty more then anything else. The Hellcat is a whole lot more car then the Scatpack. I don’t want the Scatpack guys to get mad at me. I always say best bang for the buck. But you can never make a Scatpack into a Hellcat. No tuning worries either.
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Well like the topic says I am considering making a trade up. I am kicking around 2 options of either putting a whipple on the scat or trading into a hellcat. When I consider it, it seems like just trading into a hellcat would be a better decision as its factory setup with the supercharger. I guess my question here is about a year ago it seemed really easy to get a great deal on a hellcat. Is that still true today. I was seeing guys walking off the lot with brand new 2016 models in 2017 for huge discounts. Has that ship sailed? Any buying advice would be appreciated.

Generally if the factory offers a higher performance version of the "same" car you are money ahead in the long run by just upgrading to the higher performance model.


Sure, there are exceptions; If the factory high performance model commands a substantial price premium that can make the trade up a harder to decision to make.


While the Scat Pack engine is a good engine -- one reason why I elected to buy a 2018 R/T Scat Pack vs. a lesser model is my research had me convinced that while the 5.7l engine is a good engine the 6.4l engine in the R/T SP is even better -- it is not the same engine as what comes in the HC. The HC engine is specifically designed with its higher output in mind. While you could install better pistons, rods, even a crank, there's the valve gear, the block, the fact the intake charge cooling is integrated into the car, and so on.


As an aside, after just 2 months I traded in my 2018 R/T SP for a 2018 Hellcat, so you are not alone in wanting to trade in a perfectly good R/T SP for a Hellcat. I wanted HC performance but I knew that trying to wring HC like performance out of the R/T SP was a perilous (and expensive) undertaking and one not likely to deliver acceptable results.
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I did the trade up and glad I did.
I went from a 2016 R/T/SHAKER PLUS to a 2016 HELLCAT.
I did the deal in 2017, the cat is a left over 2016 [ brand new] and the mark down was awesome
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I also traded from a Scat Pack to a Hellcat. Haven't looked back. Another difference is the transmission, the A8 in the Hellcat is designed for more power.

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What's really nice for me owning a HELLCAT is that most any thing after my 2016 cat is waaaaay to expensive for me, DEMON or the RED EYE or any Wide Body cat.
So no need for me to look down the road for my next toy.
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