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2019 Challenger Hellcat Thoughts? Couple Q's

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This is my first point but ive been an admirer of the Challenger ever since its most recent refresh and even more recently with the widebody addition. I have a youtube channel that talks about cars and i've mentioned the Challenger in a couple of my videos, most recently in a video where i share thoughts on what a bargain the current Hellcat is. Just a couple questions related to the Challenger i'd like to get a true perspective of from real owners

How is the manual transmission in the hellcat? I have alot of experience with the Shelby GT350, anyone out there that can compare the two.

Anyone with the cloth seats (houndstooth) regret it? Leather a better option? From what i felt, the structure of the seat is the same as the leather seat? Can anyone confirm?


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Anyone with the cloth seats (houndstooth) regret it? Leather a better option? From what i felt, the structure of the seat is the same as the leather seat? Can anyone confirm?
Do you want heated/cooled seats? Otherwise, cloth is fine.

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All,

This is my first point but ive been an admirer of the Challenger ever since its most recent refresh and even more recently with the widebody addition. I have a youtube channel that talks about cars and i've mentioned the Challenger in a couple of my videos, most recently in a video where i share thoughts on what a bargain the current Hellcat is. Just a couple questions related to the Challenger i'd like to get a true perspective of from real owners

How is the manual transmission in the hellcat? I have alot of experience with the Shelby GT350, anyone out there that can compare the two.

Anyone with the cloth seats (houndstooth) regret it? Leather a better option? From what i felt, the structure of the seat is the same as the leather seat? Can anyone confirm?


Finally, if anyone is interested in checking out some of my video's, please feel free to visit my channel page on YouTube, just search for DriveSteady. Open to feedback directly or in the comments.

Appreciate everyone's time.
The Tremec transmission is the same as the Shelby GT350 - so it will be familiar. The Challenger uses a remote
mount shifter vs. the Ford installation which uses a tail shaft housing extension mount, so the shifter mechnisms are slightly different between how Ford vs. Dodge implements it.

For the Laguna leather (full leather vs. the alcantara "suede" & leather):

The '19s have been de-contented as far as standard equipment.

So to add:
Laguna leather $1,759

you must add:
Plus Package: $1,695
-adds power tilt / telescope feature

and also add:
Driver Conv. Grp $ 1,095
-adds HID headlights
-adds blind spot / cross path detection

all those items will add to resale value - if you plan to sell in a few years down the road.

The starting price is lower than prior years, but a lot of std. equipment is now extra cost for '19+ models

The prices work out the same as the '18 and earlier when you add options back in.

Other items such as:

-Harmon Kardon audio
-Navigation

are also extra-cost options that used to be standard in SRT models

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One issue with the Hellcat M6 is the ratios. It uses the road race ratios like Viper but the Hellcat is a lot heavier, and combined with the 3.70 axle it's like starting in 2nd gear compared to the 392 M6 with a 3.90 gear. The clutch is a heavier and slightly larger and it does seem to hold up for the most part but those standing starts are hard on that clutch with those bad ratios.

Does the GT 350 use the TR-3160 trans? If so, it has a 3.25 1st gear compared to the Hellcat 2.26, yeah a huge difference.


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One issue with the Hellcat M6 is the ratios. It uses the road race ratios like Viper but the Hellcat is a lot heavier, and combined with the 3.70 axle it's like starting in 2nd gear compared to the 392 M6 with a 3.90 gear. The clutch is a heavier and slightly larger and it does seem to hold up for the most part but those standing starts are hard on that clutch with those bad ratios.

Does the GT 350 use the TR-3160 trans? If so, it has a 3.25 1st gear compared to the Hellcat 2.26, yeah a huge difference.


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One issue with the Hellcat M6 is the ratios. It uses the road race ratios like Viper but the Hellcat is a lot heavier, and combined with the 3.70 axle it's like starting in 2nd gear compared to the 392 M6 with a 3.90 gear. The clutch is a heavier and slightly larger and it does seem to hold up for the most part but those standing starts are hard on that clutch with those bad ratios.

Does the GT 350 use the TR-3160 trans? If so, it has a 3.25 1st gear compared to the Hellcat 2.26, yeah a huge difference.


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GT350 is 3.73:1 final drive with 305/35 19" rear tires

Hellcats have tires that range from 1.25" to 1" difference it diameter (taller) than the Mustang with std body / Wide Body tires

HC std tire: 275/40 20
HC WB tire: 305/35 20

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