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A 426 for the heritage and retro imagine sales could be a WINNER......but right now it really does fly in the face of many trends in the industry.

Engine sizes are getting smaller and choosing turbos and even super charging to achieve the MPG across the fleet of offerings from each manufacturer.

Then there is a rather disturbing trend for gasoline prices happening right now as I type. After a few years of a supply glut in crude oil keeping prices low......it really does seem like the world has finally started to get back into balance.

Makes me wonder if the idea actually happens..... it's second time around might just end as fast or faster than it's first should these trends continue.
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That's why FCA needs a more balanced product portfolio, so that they wouldn't need to worry about that. The whole focus on trucks and SUVs, just because they are the hot seller of the moment, is really short-sighted. They had that same mentality in 2008, and it nearly bankrupted them when the market shifted. Look at their lineup now, and it's like they haven't learned a thing from that near-death experience.

Anyway, If they were better prepared for a market shift today, a 426 would be a safer investment. Even if it's a niche offering.


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ABSOLUTELY.......computer controlled shifts in the Automatic transmison was never more obvious in what it can add as it is today.

A 0-60MPH sprint in a New Mustang GT is pretty revealing. The new 10 Speed Auto is repsonsible for the first sub 4.0 second time.

3.9 seconds is a direct result of the transmission. The new transmission is the improvement over a 2018 auto GT with same motor that couldn't achieve this.

MPG is pretty obviously improved as well. The old 1:1 final drive ration in a manual 4 speed or 3 speed auto required a choice of priority between gas mileage or acceleration....... we no longer have to make this trade off one for the other courtesy of the additional over drive ratios.





They also added HP and rpm to the Mustang....and no one it seems can get the sub 4 60.

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Some ignorant fools maybe.

Your the ignorant fool. Being released on 4/26/19 for model year 2020 for the 50th anniversary of challenger.


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Some ignorant fools maybe.

Your the ignorant fool. Being released on 4/26/19 for model year 2020 for the 50th anniversary of challenger.
I think he was referring to people who want the SRT to have a separation to the scat packs.


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I don't know if they will do it or not but there are all kinds of good reasons they won't. Most of all, why develop a new engine for a single model that is not a big seller anyway?

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Your the ignorant fool. Being released on 4/26/19 for model year 2020 for the 50th anniversary of challenger.
Where did you hear this?
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Where did you hear this?
Yes. Please. More. I've become a little bored with my 2013 R/T. Don't want a 15+ and actually began looking at nice used 300 SRTs just for something different (and 470HP). If I knew that we were only a year away from a new Challenger.....I'd wait patiently.

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What about the guys who bought a 6.1 in 2008-2010? This great engine will be pushed back to 5th place!
Exactly, I'm one of the guys caught in the middle with the lovely 6.1! Maybe it's time to consider the Hellcat crate engine upgrade?


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That's debatable. It's fairly well known that the Gen II 426 Hemi was underrated at 425HP and was really putting out around 500 (brake)HP. While the technology isn't on par with the Gen III Hemis, the power was probably about the same as the current 392.
No, it's not. Even if the Gen II 426 Hemi was underrated, you're talking about 500 SAE gross hp. Not installed in car, with no accessories attached, etc. In 1971, the 426 Hemi was rated at 350 SAE net hp.

The 392 Hemi has 485 SAE net hp.

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