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Yep I saw that BUT..........This "Hellcat" is some sorta "different SRT model with major appearance differences". Im just trying to see if it is DEFINATELY gonna have the auto option.
I don't see how it can't have the 8-speed because the NAG 1 5-speed is no longer being made. Sure it's being used in the 2014 vehicles, however, the Kokomo plant has already tooled over to the 8-speed as of January 2013.


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I don't see how it can't have the 8-speed because the NAG 1 5-speed is no longer being made. Sure it's being used in the 2014 vehicles, however, the Kokomo plant has already tooled over to the 8-speed as of January 2013.
Ive been hearing that the "Hellcat" version will only be a manual car. Just trying to see if that's not true.

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Great news RS, thanks once again.

That will be about the time I want to upgrade. Probably won't be able to afford the "Hellcat", but definetly can swing for a SRT8. Or, since alot of you will be upgrading, maybe I can jump on a great deal for babied, used SRT8! It will be hard to part with this B5 blue though.


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Great news RS, thanks once again.

That will be about the time I want to upgrade. Probably won't be able to afford the "Hellcat", but definetly can swing for a SRT8. Or, since alot of you will be upgrading, maybe I can jump on a great deal for babied, used SRT8! It will be hard to part with this B5 blue though.


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Why, of course, it was babied. Just ignore the 1/4 panels!
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I didn't see you mention much about weight or dimensions. Am I understanding correctly that this is NOT a completely new platform, but rather a cosmetic refresh with few or no changes to the chassis and suspension? The exterior dimensions remain the same?

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I didn't see you mention much about weight or dimensions. Am I understanding correctly that this is NOT a completely new platform, but rather a cosmetic refresh with few or no changes to the chassis and suspension? The exterior dimensions remain the same?
Someone posted about a month ago that this is a refresh... 2017 will be the newer, smaller version Challenger... might not be true and might not be accurate info though.

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Please Please Please lose the B pillar so we can either roll down the rear windows or lower the top down!!!
Often when the B-pillar is omitted, there needs to be additional structure/bracing to reinforce the body to reduce torsional flexing that can occur...typically that adds more weight.

As an example, the 2nd gen of my 'Benz went pillar-less (B pillar) and all models gained 300# in the process.
Granted, it looked nice and gained rear windows that rolled down, but every model gained a lot of weight in a 180" long car body over the previous design.

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Hmm, I wonder if this 6.2L will have.........

1) Aluminum block
2) Direct injection
3) Still use Speed Density for the air and fuel metering. (maybe go to Mass Air Flow?)
I've heard a few times it has an aluminum block, not sure on DI or MAF though...

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Often when the B-pillar is omitted, there needs to be additional structure/bracing to reinforce the body to reduce torsional flexing that can occur...typically that adds more weight.

As an example, the 2nd gen of my 'Benz went pillar-less (B pillar) and all models gained 300# in the process.
Granted, it looked nice and gained rear windows that rolled down, but every model gained a lot of weight in a 180" long car body over the previous design.

Not to mention crash standards. When the 08LC was going through design, we did the feasibility study on having a true hard top. The added weight and cost of the sheet metal was a big factor in its self on top of the added window mechanism/electronics weight and costs. IIRC the panel would had to of been a Hydro formed panel out of high strength steel. People complain enough about how much the LC is a pig. Between crash standards and EPA/MPG requirements, many of you wouldn't believe the balancing act it takes to design a car anymore.

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