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At what point does the "Fiat Factor" kick in and turn our beloved Challenger and Chargers into small European type cars with 4 cyl engines?
I hope NEVER
Yeah I wouldn't worry about that, all the Dodge and SRT people are in Auburn Hills so these cars will stay uniquely American. The 4-cylinder engines will probably have to happen one day but they will find a way to keep things interesting and the V8's around as long as possible.

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"At what point does the "Fiat Factor" kick in and turn our beloved Challenger and Chargers into small European type cars with 4 cyl engines?
I hope NEVER"

that movement is starting - look at GM and Ford. Downsized the car and have gone 4cyl / turbo as base engines. Next versions will change more so in that direction.

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For what it's worth...if the day comes where the V-8s are no longer made, our cars with V-8s will be worth $$$$
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Needs to be even smaller and lose another 400 lbs!
This is no joke. If they truly intend to compete with GM & Ford, then these cars will have to lose a minimum of 400, and more like 500, lbs. They can forget about the cosmetics until after they've accomplished some hellishly-serious mass reduction.



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...On another note, I predicted on this forum a few years ago that automobiles will start to be self driving by 2020. Looks like in 2017 you can buy cars that virtually do that already. Mercedes and of course Tesla each have a car that can do most functions. The age of the automobile as we know is about to change dramatically in the next 10-15 years.
I just caught a news flash about a guy in Florida who has the dubious honor of being the first person killed in a Tesla that was operating on Auto Pilot. A semi turned left in front of him and the car failed to apply its brakes. When he went under the trailer at full speed, the whole greenhouse (and, one must assume, the guy's upper half) was scraped off of the car. It was only a matter of time before this happened to a car in autonomous mode, reality being as unpredictable as it is and all. Of course, the lawyers are going to have a field day with this...and any public acceptance of autonomous cars will be set back several years. Ah hell, lawyers would probably have prevented it from happening any time soon, even without this incident.



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Who knows if Chrysler will still be in Business in 2019?
Did yea look at their stock today lol(falling like a rock}..............JQ
Just what I was thinking. With Marchionne running things, I'd be thrilled if the company was still around in 2019, let alone worrying about new Challengers or Cudas. The Italians should never be accused of understanding the American car market, let alone modern American muscle cars.

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This is no joke. If they truly intend to compete with GM & Ford, then these cars will have to lose a minimum of 400, and more like 500, lbs. They can forget about the cosmetics until after they've accomplished some hellishly-serious mass reduction.



I just caught a news flash about a guy in Florida who has the dubious honor of being the first person killed in a Tesla that was operating on Auto Pilot. A semi turned left in front of him and the car failed to apply its brakes. When he went under the trailer at full speed, the whole greenhouse (and, one must assume, the guy's upper half) was scraped off of the car. It was only a matter of time before this happened to a car in autonomous mode, reality being as unpredictable as it is and all. Of course, the lawyers are going to have a field day with this...and any public acceptance of autonomous cars will be set back several years. Ah hell, lawyers would probably have prevented it from happening any time soon, even without this incident.



Just what I was thinking. With Marchionne running things, I'd be thrilled if the company was still around in 2019, let alone worrying about new Challengers or Cudas. The Italians should never be accused of understanding the American car market, let alone modern American muscle cars.
Without taking the thread too far off track, the REAL issue with autonomous vehicles is the morality one. The vehicle is going to be programmed to minimize loss of life when possible....therefore if it comes down to driving in to a crowd of people at 60mph or driving in to a brick wall at 60mph..you are going to die.

Not sure how comfortable I am with getting in to a vehicle that WILL kill me, even if it is the correct decision.


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This is no joke. If they truly intend to compete with GM & Ford, then these cars will have to lose a minimum of 400, and more like 500, lbs. They can forget about the cosmetics until after they've accomplished some hellishly-serious mass reduction.
To compete with GM and Ford in my opinion all they need to do is keep the quality superior. I have always been a MOPAR person, knowing my car might be a little bigger, and little heavier but, it is a lot better, and more manly than their little girly cars. Case in point, a guy I work with has a vette, when I bring my Challenger and he brings his Vette and we park next to each other, the Challenger is just so much more masculine and muscular than his little go cart. I want to do a truck style tug of war with our cars but of course like all vette owners, they have no balls. He always wants to drag race me or road race me, I tell him only if it is full contact, of course that is a no go as I would push him right off the track.
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Who knows if Chrysler will still be in Business in 2019?
Did yea look at their stock today lol(falling like a rock}..............JQ

JQ has been posting this comment about every two years, since he bought his 1st Challenger - he's on #3 now.

FCA shareholders wouldn't allow a significant asset / business unit to be mis-managed like that - not good for their investments. Chrysler is FCA's gateway back into US market and Fiat / Alpha brands wouldn't work as stand-alone dealerships - limited models and slow to re-establish in US market.
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I may be in the minority, but i think the whole car looks awful.

Has it been confirmed whether the Challenger will get the major redesign for the 2018 model year (released in 2017) or the 2020 model year (released in 2019)?
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To compete with GM and Ford in my opinion all they need to do is keep the quality superior. I have always been a MOPAR person, knowing my car might be a little bigger, and little heavier but, it is a lot better, and more manly than their little girly cars. Case in point, a guy I work with has a vette, when I bring my Challenger and he brings his Vette and we park next to each other, the Challenger is just so much more masculine and muscular than his little go cart. I want to do a truck style tug of war with our cars but of course like all vette owners, they have no balls. He always wants to drag race me or road race me, I tell him only if it is full contact, of course that is a no go as I would push him right off the track.


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MY 2021 is slated 'new design' for the RWD platforms.

the MY '19 looks like will get a refresh (think along the lines of the change from '10 to '11) - you won't see a major revamp for only 2 years of production when the new model is that near in terms of production.
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