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Chevy needs a Chevelle and Ford needs a Torino. Not everyone wants a small cramped car just because they want a coupe.

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The Camaro has been but ugly since it came out in 2010, and has continued to get uglier. Even with the 2015 refresh the Mustang looks better but still..at the end of the day...the Challenger always has been the best looking of the bunch..and now the Challenger line-up is so vast compared to the others it's incredible...V6, 5.7, 6.4, Demon, Red-eye...Hellcat...the Widebody's. No wonder Dodge has kept the same basic chassis and body for all these years, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.


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The Camaro has been but ugly since it came out in 2010, and has continued to get uglier. Even with the 2015 refresh the Mustang looks better but still..at the end of the day...the Challenger always has been the best looking of the bunch..and now the Challenger line-up is so vast compared to the others it's incredible...V6, 5.7, 6.4, Demon, Red-eye...Hellcat...the Widebody's. No wonder Dodge has kept the same basic chassis and body for all these years, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I agree to a lot of what you said but i think it was good looking for the 16'-18' years. The 19' i did not like at all for a refresh they should have done very little rather then going all out to a darker side of things. After getting into a basic Challenger R/T rental for a week i changed my whole outlook on the Challenger all in all. I had both the Camaro and SP in my driveway for about a month till i traded back in the Camaro and honestly its like having a small sports coupe compared to a real feel old school muscle car for sure. I am happy to now be behind the wheel of my Challenger and have 0 regrets on my decision. Keep doing your thing Dodge!!!
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I agree to a lot of what you said but i think it was good looking for the 16'-18' years. The 19' i did not like at all for a refresh they should have done very little rather then going all out to a darker side of things. After getting into a basic Challenger R/T rental for a week i changed my whole outlook on the Challenger all in all. I had both the Camaro and SP in my driveway for about a month till i traded back in the Camaro and honestly its like having a small sports coupe compared to a real feel old school muscle car for sure. I am happy to now be behind the wheel of my Challenger and have 0 regrets on my decision. Keep doing your thing Dodge!!!
Your picture makes the Challenger look way smaller than the Camaro. Perspective I would guess.
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Chevy needs a Chevelle and Ford needs a Torino. Not everyone wants a small cramped car just because they want a coupe.
Let's hope Chevy doesn't ever decide to clone Challenger's success strategy and produce a modern 69 or 70 SS Chevelle clone. They were seriously popular muscle cars in their heyday, and in my opinion, would sell like hotcakes and potentially put a dent in Challenger sales. We could find ourselves losing some bragging rights concerning sales numbers.
But not to worry. I doubt that we'll ever see a retro Torino for the same basic reason that another Chenille is doubtful. Manufacturers are dumping coupes and 4-doors for SUV's and pickups. We've talked about this on the forum. The writing's on the wall, and every manufacturer wants to produce vehicles that make them the biggest profits.

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Let's hope Chevy doesn't ever decide to clone Challenger's success strategy and produce a modern 69 or 70 SS Chevelle clone. They were seriously popular muscle cars in their heyday, and in my opinion, would sell like hotcakes and potentially put a dent in Challenger sales. We could find ourselves losing some bragging rights concerning sales numbers.
But not to worry. I doubt that we'll ever see a retro Torino for the same basic reason that another Chevelle is doubtful. Manufacturers are dumping coupes and 4-doors for SUV's and pickups. We've talked about this on the forum. The writing's on the wall, and every manufacturer wants to produce vehicles that make them the biggest profits.
GM is so far off track on their model lineup. What we'll end up with are blobby shaped Buicks (since China can't seem to get enough of them...) and they're killing off most of the models and favoring crossovers.

Given the styling trends, about their only hope is restyling the trucks and not messing things up with the Corvette

They'll probably kill off the Camaro (Gen 6 concludes for 2021 model year) and bring back the Camaro as a crossover - they're already promoting the 2020 Blazer as the "sporty" crossover...looks inevitable.

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... and bring back the Camaro as a crossover
Just shoot me now if that's the case. I'd rather be dead than see that disaster come to existence.


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I was just thinking back to the popularity of the 69/70 SS Chevelle, not only back in the day, but even now. Even the clones are selling for big money these days. Interesting that GM chose not to capitalize on bringing back that design as Dodge did with the Challenger. I'm thinking it could have been every bit as popular as the Challenger. Overall sales numbers back in the day would indicate so. Seems manufactures are forever copying each other's successful ideas, but alas, not this time.
Ha... instead, Chevy came out with the SSR, a huge gamble and a huge financial failure.

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I was just thinking back to the popularity of the 69/70 SS Chevelle, not only back in the day, but even now. Even the clones are selling for big money these days. Interesting that GM chose not to capitalize on bringing back that design as Dodge did with the Challenger. I'm thinking it would could have been every bit as popular as the Challenger. Overall sales numbers back in the day would indicate so. Seems manufactures are forever copying each other's successful ideas, but alas, not this time.
Ha... instead, Chevy came out with the SSR, a huge gamble and a huge financial failure.
I completely agree! A modern'ized, but still retro-looking version of the Chevelle would be awesome. You'd think that GM would follow Dodges' lead and make such a thing. Have both it and the Camaro. They're dumping almost all of their sedans, so they have plenty of room in the line-up for another car or two! Maybe the sales numbers just don't justify it, being a 2-door car. I'm one of those people that have zero interest in an SUV - I want a car. Being a GM guy up until now, I would have jumped on a nice-looking retro'ish Chevelle - assuming it was done right - but that is a big assumption with GM nowadays...
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