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Couple of picks , I found set of 15” files to be very useful getting all the flash cast down the insides of the ports.


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if you have the time and the tools port match the 6.1 intake and have it powder coated.

The powder coating improves airflow by removing a lot of the rough surface and the port matching reduces turbulence.

I did this and was pleased with the results, and the looks.


That came out awesome!!! Nice job man!!


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all parts are in, now I just need to assemble them.
Took a minute to figure out where to put the regulator, not a lot of room in my engine bay. I ended up putting it down on the driver side fender area, below the coolant reservoir.
here is a blurry shot of the regulator, i went with a Holley regulator and Summit supplied the gauge.

I'll post up more (and less blurry) pics once I get the lines assembled and start installation.
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Might not be the scope of this thread but ill ask:


To run it flex fuel has anyone looked into how the V6 can be flex fuel but no one can figure out how to this its on the the Hemi platform. Some of this info is coming from FB but I dont see the mystery if its done on the V6 in years past cant be that hard to do on the Hemi.


When I say flex fuel I mean any mix of E85 and gas.



I know the GM cars the maps are in the ECM and you just add a Flex fuel sensor and get the tune to open the maps up. No muss no fuss.

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I think it can be done. HP tuners has a Flex-fuel update but it's not as simple as updating the OS. There is some tuning involved. Again not 100% sure...might need bigger injectors/fuel pump. Someone posted a kit a while back.
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Im perplexed ...and again this is mostly FB info, but someone that says they work for Barth tuning says it cant be done and the other east coast tuners are all " working on it". It just doesnt seem that far fetched to me considering FCU has V6 that do it already. I'm just stuck on this.


Im going to get a Pro flex on my SRT Jeep someday just to see where its at.
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Here is the kit that one of the members either here or on HP tuners posted that does not require the tune to be changed.

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Might not be the scope of this thread but ill ask:


To run it flex fuel has anyone looked into how the V6 can be flex fuel but no one can figure out how to this its on the the Hemi platform. Some of this info is coming from FB but I dont see the mystery if its done on the V6 in years past cant be that hard to do on the Hemi.


When I say flex fuel I mean any mix of E85 and gas.



I know the GM cars the maps are in the ECM and you just add a Flex fuel sensor and get the tune to open the maps up. No muss no fuss.


Livernoise Motorsports IS doing flex fuel tuning on HEMI’s. I’ve been contemplating crossing that bridge as well. I just purchased an ethanol content sensor and gage for my build. I’m going to ask Aj if he can work something otherwise I’ll just go full e85 for the summer. Maybe another table to pull appropriate timing and fuel depending on content. Similar to the ls guys running another table off their 93 pump tune for nitrous. I have to find it , but I’ve read some bit about it. I’ll get back when I do.


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I think it can be done. HP tuners has a Flex-fuel update but it's not as simple as updating the OS. There is some tuning involved. Again not 100% sure...might need bigger injectors/fuel pump. Someone posted a kit a while back.


I ran full e85 on my 392 with just adding id1000’s and obviously adjusting the tune. I didn’t have the experience with hp to try myself, but Sean(Hemifever) had the car dialed in pretty well I thought. Now tuning with Aj at true street performance for my 426, hopefully find out this week which direction we’ll go.


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I am not going the fuel content sensing route, I'll be running straight E85.
I can't really run 93 anyway, the entire reason I'm going to E85.
With the compression ratio I can't pull enough timing to prevent knock.
I could possibly re-use the fuel rail, but it has a rubber-like cross over line that I'd be concerned about degrading over time.
And the stock system is return-less, so I'd need to run another line anyway.
Also I need to increase the flow rate for when the time for boost arrives.
I'm doing this fuel system "once and done", might be a little over kill in some areas but it will be right.

I'm going to start by adding 25% fuel to the tune I had now and see where that lands it.
...if I ever get time to work on the car. between work and customer rides all my parts are still sitting in a box.
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