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No Compact Spare for 2019 6.4 Challengers?

At dodge.com:
I can build a ‘19 R/T 5.7/A8 with the Performance Handling Group AND the Compact Spare (TBK). The Performance Handling Group includes the limited-slip differential, heavy-duty suspension and the same size tires that come on the 6.4 Scat Pack.

If I build a ‘19 R/T 6.4/A8 with no other options, the site does not list the Compact Spare.

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- Any ideas on why Dodge won’t let me get the TBK compact spare on a 6.4/A8?
- Does the scissors jack not work under the lower suspension on the 6.4?






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Has to do with the Brembo brakes, the donut spare will not fit.

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Has to do with the Brembo brakes, the donut spare will not fit.

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If a 2019 5.7 Challenger has the Performance Handling Group option, it has the same Brembo brakes, suspension, and limited-slip axle that come stock on a 2019 6.4 Scat Pack. The site lets me order a compact spare with that set-up.

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If a 2019 5.7 Challenger has the Performance Handling Group option, it has the same Brembo brakes, suspension, and limited-slip axle that come stock on a 2019 6.4 Scat Pack. The site lets me oder a compact spare with that set-up.



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Guess, I was mistaken on that one. Thought for sure, Brembo equipped cars couldn't come with spare. Only other reason it isn't offered with the Scat is weight related.

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I have an 18 Scat Pack & it did not come with a spare. Just a pump and some tire goop. I acquired a full size donut spare from Performance Spare.com. They sell a kit that includes the tire/wheel, jack, lug wrench, and tire hold down. I had to remove the Styrofoam tire well organizer to store the spare tire & jack. I was able to fit the tire pump back into the well also, next to the tire. If you have the Harmon Kardon sound system, the amp. is located in the spare tire well so your spare would have to sit on the trunk floor.
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I have an 18 Scat Pack & it did not come with a spare. Just a pump and some tire goop. I acquired a full size donut spare from Performance Spare.com. They sell a kit that includes the tire/wheel, jack, lug wrench, and tire hold down. I had to remove the Styrofoam tire well organizer to store the spare tire & jack. I was able to fit the tire pump back into the well also, next to the tire. If you have the Harmon Kardon sound system, the amp. is located in the spare tire well so your spare would have to sit on the trunk floor.
Bob Ricewasser,

Thanks for the info. Until 2019, I had thought the reason that no compact spare was offered on 6.4 models was because 6.4 models all have limited-slip differentials and that the limited-slip would be damaged if there was a significant difference in the diameter of the rear tires. But, in 2019 a compact spare is optional on 5.7 models with limited slip.

I downloaded the 2019 Challenger owner’s manual. I checked to see if the ‘19 manual has information about using a compact spare with a limited-slip differential. I thought the work-around might be a “two-tire” change. If a rear tire is flat, first install the compact spare on the front and then install the front tire on the rear. I couldn’t find any information specific to using the compact spare with a limited-slip differential in the 2019 owner’s manual.

I’ve sent an email to Dodge Customer Care asking them why the compact spare is available on 5.7 models with limited-slip, but not on 6.4 models with limited-slip. They have been very prompt answering previous questions from me.
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Bob Ricewasser,

Thanks for the info. Until 2019, I had thought the reason that no compact spare was offered on 6.4 models was because 6.4 models all have limited-slip differentials and that the limited-slip would be damaged if there was a significant difference in the diameter of the rear tires. But, in 2019 a compact spare is optional on 5.7 models with limited slip.

I downloaded the 2019 Challenger owner’s manual. I checked to see if the ‘19 manual has information about using a compact spare with a limited-slip differential. I thought the work-around might be a “two-tire” change. If a rear tire is flat, first install the compact spare on the front and then install the front tire on the rear. I couldn’t find any information specific to using the compact spare with a limited-slip differential in the 2019 owner’s manual.

I’ve sent an email to Dodge Customer Care asking them why the compact spare is available on 5.7 models with limited-slip, but not on 6.4 models with limited-slip. They have been very prompt answering previous questions from me.
it won't clear the brake calipers - not enough offset. Its been that way on any Brembo equipped model since the '08s came out.

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it won't clear the brake calipers - not enough offset. Its been that way on any Brembo equipped model since the '08s came out.
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Is it a mistake that dodge.com will let me build a 5.7 R/T with the Performance Handling Group (includes Brembo 4-piston brakes) and with a compact spare (TBK)?

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Don't think it has anything to do with limited slip. The Challenger 5.7L with M6 transmission (all with limited slip) has had a spare tire either standard or optional since day one so Dodge must feel there's no issue with it for short distances and temporary use.

It's the Brembo brakes and I know it looks like you can build a 5.7L Brembo car now with a spare but I've yet to see one. Unless they've totally redesigned the temporary spare it will fit only in the rear, no way in the front.

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Don't think it has anything to do with limited slip. The Challenger 5.7L with M6 transmission (all with limited slip) has had a spare tire either standard or optional since day one so Dodge must feel there's no issue with it for short distances and temporary use.

It's the Brembo brakes and I know it looks like you can build a 5.7L Brembo car now with a spare but I've yet to see one. Unless they've totally redesigned the temporary spare it will fit only in the rear, no way in the front.

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Slidd,

Good point about the 5.7/M6/LSD models. Thanks.

I’m asking the question because I’ve learned that brochures, websites, and salesmen are not always reliable sources of information about vehicles. Also, because our plan is to do a lower-48 “grand tour” and I would really like to have some sort of spare for a trip like that.

I suppose you good do a 2-wheel change if you got a flat in the front on a Challenger with Brembos:
- Install compact spare on the rear
- Install rear tire on the front

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