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I agree. And this took place out of all places down in Texas where liberalism and socialist communism isn't condoned. Too bad that he got caught. The south needs to reject all socialist communist laws which restrict people of their freedoms.
Not to get off the subject here, but how does liberalism and socialist communism enter in the events here? I am not following this either.

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Not to get off the subject here, but how does liberalism and socialist communism enter in the events here? I am not following this either.
It's the liberals (who are the socialist and communists) who pass these dumb laws that take away people's freedom and rights. Texas is a conservative state. I'm surprised that a conservative state like Texas has tolls. The tolls are usually up in the northeast where most of the liberals reside where socialist communist laws already exist.
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I don't follow what is going on here. Flip license plate? Avoiding tolls?
You overlooked the link that ws in the original post.

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It's the liberals (who are the socialist and communists) who pass these dumb laws that take away people's freedom and rights. Texas is a conservative state. I'm surprised that a conservative state like Texas has tolls. The tolls are usually up in the northeast where most of the liberals reside where socialist communist laws already exist.
The liberals are tolerable, it’s the leftist that need to be dealt with.

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I'm just glad he got away with it for a long time before he went up river. He should sue, its a tax on top of a tax. Hiden taxation without representation!

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The liberals are tolerable, it’s the leftist that need to be dealt with.
I always believed that the leftists "are" the liberals.
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When I first saw the thread's title, I was thinking it was talking about those hide-a-plate kind of holders which some folks have mounted to the front of the car to hold the front license plate in states that require it, but then it can be actuated to hide the plate when parking close to a curb or sitting at a car show.

This is NOT that same kind of plate holder (from what I could tell). This one appears to be specifically intended to go on the back bumper and do just what the offender did with it - hide the license plate normally showing at the flip of a switch, e.g. going through an automated toll lane.

Also, the detail about him owing $5400 in unpaid tolls is misleading. Yes, I'm sure the bill that the tollway authority gives him to pay is actually $5400. However, that does not mean he's run the toll booths enough times for the individual toll amounts to add up to $5400. That $5400 is a total amount calculated by adding up all the missed tolls plus a service fee FOR EACH UNPAID TOLL.

Around here, that service fee is $20 per toll. So you could realistically only rack up a dozen or so unpaid tolls, but your bill will end up being several hundred dollars once the service fees are tacked on.

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Sime toll roads are built with the idea that the tolls pay for the cost of the road and maintenance of the road. Texas has no income tax, how high is the gas tax, how are roads funded?

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Sime toll roads are built with the idea that the tolls pay for the cost of the road and maintenance of the road. Texas has no income tax, how high is the gas tax, how are roads funded?
The thing about toll roads here in Texas that angers folks the most (myself included) is how they have managed to bend the rules to enrich the companies that build them, not to mention how much of a dog and pony show their internal business management is. At the risk of digressing, I'll limit my response to the former part of that statement in an attempt to address your question.

So the state laws used to be written in such a way that ensured any toll roads would only be toll roads for as long as necessary to pay for themselves, and once they were paid for, they would stop being a toll road. Those laws where rewritten somewhat so that now a toll road remains a toll road as long as ANY road under the building authority's supervision is still being paid for.

What that means is that even after a toll road has paid back the bonds used to build it, it continues to remain a toll road forever, with all tolls going to the pertinent tollway authority that "owns" it. That goes against the intent of the original state laws concerning this matter, but only where earned money is concerned. When it comes to money paid out for things like law enforcement along the toll way roads, the original laws were left alone, which by the way specify the state is responsible for.

So the tollway authority gets a loan to build a road and then charges tolls to pay for that road. Once the road is built, the state is responsible for, and pays all costs associated with, law enforcement along the road. After the loan is paid back, nothing changes - the tollway authority continues to collect the tolls and the state continues to pay for law enforcement.
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It's the liberals (who are the socialist and communists) who pass these dumb laws that take away people's freedom and rights. Texas is a conservative state. I'm surprised that a conservative state like Texas has tolls. The tolls are usually up in the northeast where most of the liberals reside where socialist communist laws already exist.
It looks as though communism is spreading everywhere.
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