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Understanding wheel and tire fitment.

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I thought the difference between lug and hub-centric was whether the hub bore supported the full weight of the vehicle but rather how the tire is centered to the hub when mounted?

Hub-centric uses the hub diameter to center the wheel (i.e. when tire is mounted it does not sit on the lugs).

Lug-centric means tire hub is smaller than wheel center bore and when the wheel is mounted to the hub it rests on the lugs.

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When I mount wheels on my challenger, the wheel rests on the hub and not the lugs...hence hub-centric.


They do not rest on the hub. They rest on the torque of lugs. When you you torque/tighten your lugs , your wheels center on the lugs and not on the hub.


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They should "rest" on the hub, if the wheel and vehicle match, on a hub centric vehicle.
That takes care of the wheel being perfectly centered on the hub.

The clamping force provided by the lug nuts keeps the wheel from rotating on the hub, and keep the wheel from falling off.

Those are really two different things on modern vehicles, where on some older ones there were cases where the wheel studs and nuts had to do both jobs.

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When I put the wheels on my car, before I even put a lugnt on, the wheel lug holes in the wheel are not even touching the lugs, so the lugs can't be centering anything at that point - the wheel is already centered because it's resting on the hub... Then when I tighten the lugnuts, it also helps center the lugs in the wheel lug holes "perfectly". This is why I say they are hub- and lug-centric. Both the hub and the lugnuts play a part in centering everything.

This is assuming that you are either a) using OEM wheels with the correct center bore size or b) using aftermarket wheels with correcly-sized hubrings.

I think if you are using the correct wheels, they absolutely do use the hubs to center themselves - and then the lugnuts center the lugs in the wheel lug holes even furhter. If you are using incorrect wheels, then maybe they are lug-centric, but not correctly-sized OEM wheels.

My wheels certainly do not "hang" off of the lugs when I put them on - they rest on the hubs, which centers them.
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Wow , this isn’t a debate. Chrysler vehicles are lug centric. Go outside , pull your wheels off. Take off your center caps. Put your wheels on. Tighten your lugs , your wheels WILL center on the studs and lift off of the hub. They are lug centric. The weight of the vehicle DOES NOT sit on the hubs.
Hub centric vehicles will have hubs so tight even the slightest rust around the hubs and the wheels won’t fit. Why is this so mind boggling?


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When I put the wheels on my car, before I even put a lugnt on, the wheel lug holes in the wheel are not even touching the lugs, so the lugs can't be centering anything at that point - the wheel is already centered because it's resting on the hub... Then when I tighten the lugnuts, it also helps center the lugs in the wheel lug holes "perfectly". This is why I say they are hub- and lug-centric. Both the hub and the lugnuts play a part in centering everything.

This is assuming that you are either a) using OEM wheels with the correct center bore size or b) using aftermarket wheels with correcly-sized hubrings.

I think if you are using the correct wheels, they absolutely do use the hubs to center themselves - and then the lugnuts center the lugs in the wheel lug holes even furhter. If you are using incorrect wheels, then maybe they are lug-centric, but not correctly-sized OEM wheels.

My wheels certainly do not "hang" off of the lugs when I put them on - they rest on the hubs, which centers them.


Again wow , 60* conical lug nuts are used to center the wheel. They won’t be centered until torqued. Weld wheels are all lug centric, they sell for all makes. If you buy welds for a hub centric vehicle you WILL have to buy lug centric adapters to mount them. But I suppose weld racing has no clue either. Oh , yeah , my welds need no adapters .... hmmmmm


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Wow , this isn’t a debate. Chrysler vehicles are lug centric. Go outside , pull your wheels off. Take off your center caps. Put your wheels on. Tighten your lugs , your wheels WILL center on the studs and lift off of the hub. They are lug centric. The weight of the vehicle DOES NOT sit on the hubs.
Hub centric vehicles will have hubs so tight even the slightest rust around the hubs and the wheels won’t fit. Why is this so mind boggling?


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This.

Lets wrap it up guys


Thank you , and please let’s wrap this up. I really didn’t want to start what turned into a debate about actual fact. My apologies to the op and to the others who are too stubborn to learn. I don’t mean to have a rotten demeanor, I just prefer facts over conjecture. Again, my apologies


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