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Is this option worth it if you were choosing between two 392's and the one without it was significantly less?

I cannot stand driving in a car without a good sound system but am not really interested in having to deal with the hassle of upgrading the system on my own -- but I'd save a decent amount of money by choosing the car without this option but I haven't heard either sound systems and unfortunately won't be able to until after the purchase has been made (I'm buying the car remotely) so your input is VERY VERY important! Thanks!
 

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IMO the base sound sys in the SRT8 sounds great. If you're used to something better or massive bass from a good SW, you might be a little disappointed. I love music but actually don't use the sound sys a lot. Just love the sound of the car.
 

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You may want to see if you can track down a Charger SRT8 - it has the same sound system (although that model isn't exactly common either).

The Challenger line [SXT Plus on up] has the Premium Sound Group available - its the same setup that's offered on the SRT8. (not Sound Group II - that's the BA 7 speaker / 1 sub not offered on SRT8s)

If you can track one of these around, you could demo the sound system to see if it appeals to you.

Base audio on R/T Plus is the 6 speaker BA audio, which is the base audio for '12 SRT8 as well.

The radios feed into a 6/8-channel remote amp (depending on application), then to the speakers, so head units 430/430N, 730N don't have high-level on-board amps in the head units themselves.
 

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Thanks for all your replies. I've actually decided to wait out buying a challenger 392 for now at least until next year. I spoke with a friend who works at a major dealership in Southern California who told me they are planning some major upgrades for next year and he's now begun to offer very deep discounts on the SRT 392 to get them off the lot. Though the discounts are very very attractive, I'd rather wait and pay a premium for the new stuff.

Claims to see upgraded transmission, possible super charger, upgraded interior/dash computer system similar to Charger and maybe even slightly more narrow body and less weight.
 

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If your ready to buy now and can afford it, I would jump on a deeply discounted 392. I would not count on any of those upgrades happening.

Don't really know anything about the sound system. Mine has the SG2 option available to R/T's in '09, and I love it. Best stock system I have ever had.

Just my two cents.
 

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Get the upgrade, its worth it IMO
 

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Thanks for all your replies. I've actually decided to wait out buying a challenger 392 for now at least until next year. I spoke with a friend who works at a major dealership in Southern California who told me they are planning some major upgrades for next year and he's now begun to offer very deep discounts on the SRT 392 to get them off the lot. Though the discounts are very very attractive, I'd rather wait and pay a premium for the new stuff.

Claims to see upgraded transmission, possible super charger, upgraded interior/dash computer system similar to Charger and maybe even slightly more narrow body and less weight.
Baahahhahahaha... there's where you went wrong.

2013 will be more or less the same as 2012's.

BUY THE 392!!! :ninja:
 

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So far I am so happy with my stock radio system on my SRT8.
For me it is not a big mod or missing option...
 

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I remember hearing one member on another forum, I think it was "Krazy Kim" say the upgrade was absolutely worth it. I haven't heard one myself
 

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I would Buy the basic audio system car now and spend some of the savings on a good setup professionally installed. Waiting for the "new" version may b a waste as they still say they are discontinuing the challenger n the near future. Although a lighter supercharged chally would be a great last hurrah
 

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How much are they talking for the upgrade? If it's not very expensive, it's junk. If it's really expensive, you can buy a lot better aftermarket system for the price.

I am an audio specialist and if you're looking for really good sound, save your money and use it on an aftermarket system and have it professionally installed. Most factory systems can't even come close to the sound quality of aftermarket systems for the price. You don't even really need to replace the head unit to have it rocking'. Buy a good quality amp, replace all the speakers, add a good sub woofer with a well built enclosure (sealed or ported), I prefer sealed, and have it professionally installed. I'm partial to JL Audio. They aren't cheap but worth it. Just don't ever buy Bose. Any audio professional out there that knows what there listening for will tell you that Bose is awful. Remember, if when turned up loud, it hurts your ears, it's not right. Tuning and quality are crucial and factory systems will not be tuned at all nor will it be considered when built for the car. Although, it's a car so tuning is almost impossible anyway but a professional can get it sounding really good for you. Clarity doesn't mean it's good either although it's important. Bose systems are clear but there audio levels and frequency parameters are all over the map and they can't be tuned properly. When buying an amplifier, I like the JL Audio HD Series HD900/5. It's digital and a 5 channel amp so you can hook your component speakers and your sub up to it, otherwise you will need two separate amps, one for your components and one for your sub/s. Also, when having it installed, choose a reputable place with good credentials. You may have to do some research in your area but there are so many car audio installation shops out there that don't know what they're doing, it's not even funny.


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By the way, you don't need 18 speakers to make a little enclosed car sound great. It's actually very rediculous. It's just a marketing scheme to up the price. Some good mid or low range speakers in the front and back (2 each), add some tweeters and crossovers and a sub or two and it can blow your hair back when properly done with quality products.


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By the way, you don't need 18 speakers to make a little enclosed car sound great. It's actually very rediculous. It's just a marketing scheme to up the price. Some good mid or low range speakers in the front and back (2 each), add some tweeters and crossovers and a sub or two and it can blow your hair back when properly done with quality products.


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I couldn't agree more.. and also with your other post. i am also a audio nut.. my problem is i have put system in every car i have owned and it is ALOT of work. I bought my car with the factory kicker set up and i thought about yanking out the factory speakers. putting in some better ones but then that means amps or amp.. and wiring it to the factory deck could be a potential pain from what i have read.

but with that being said.. the money you spend on the UPGRADED system from factory won't even come close to say 1000 bucks you spend on aftermaket stuff.

I will say this also. you GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. and if you do do amps. JL IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO.

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JL is not the only way to go and expensive does not mean good.
 

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I have a new R/T with the premium sound system and the "18 speakers". The only way you could justify the $2k price is because of the oem install, which is a big plus. To get something similar done by an audio shop is going to run you a lot more than $2k, granted their selection of components would likely beat the oem quality by a mile, but I would put it at $3-4k. So it is a compromise.

My question though is where the hell are the 18 speakers? I have done over a dozen stereo systems in my life and for the life of me I can not find the 18 speakers. I can count 3 dash, 2 front doors, 2 rear panels, and 2 subs. What am I missing?

Also, is it worth it to upgrade the front and dash to the Kickers and the Kicker amp?
 

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My question though is where the hell are the 18 speakers? I have done over a dozen stereo systems in my life and for the life of me I can not find the 18 speakers. I can count 3 dash, 2 front doors, 2 rear panels, and 2 subs. What am I missing?

Also, is it worth it to upgrade the front and dash to the Kickers and the Kicker amp?
They're counting the 3-way and 2-way into the total.

So there's likely 3-ways in the doors (2), 3-ways in the rear shelf (2), 2-ways in dash (2) and the dual subs in the rear trunk well for the 18 count.

I've not seen 3-ways done in 3.5" size (front dash), since there's not enough space for 3 drivers in that size.

the Kicker was 13-speaker (6/ 2-ways plus sub = 13 speakers)

The center has a dash speaker in the SXT Plus and R/T models when optioned with the Boston Acoustics SGII (7 wide range plus sub).

The Challenger has a total of 8 speaker openings in the body and depending on trim and audio options it is built with.
3 dash
2 doors
3 rear (L & R), plus opening for 8" BA sub on SGII option.
 

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This is really dependent on how much importance a sound system is to you.

For me it is not important at all.

But you sound like it is very important to you, so go for it.

2013 is not going to have any major changes from what I have read on here. I would have waited for the 8 Speed Auto on the 392, but it is not going to happen.
 

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I have a new R/T with the premium sound system and the "18 speakers". The only way you could justify the $2k price is because of the oem install, which is a big plus. To get something similar done by an audio shop is going to run you a lot more than $2k, granted their selection of components would likely beat the oem quality by a mile, but I would put it at $3-4k. So it is a compromise.

My question though is where the hell are the 18 speakers? I have done over a dozen stereo systems in my life and for the life of me I can not find the 18 speakers. I can count 3 dash, 2 front doors, 2 rear panels, and 2 subs. What am I missing?

Also, is it worth it to upgrade the front and dash to the Kickers and the Kicker amp?
You're exactly right about the price if you go with the high end stuff. For example, I was mentioning JL Audio earlier and here is a rough estimate of the cost.

HD 900/5 amp is $999
CLS110RG-W7AG which is a 10" sub in a sealed enclosure is $859
C2-525 which is 5 1/4 system with woofers, tweeters and crossovers is $250
C2-525X which is 5 1/4 2-ways is $180
Add $600 for installation and that totals to $2,879

I'm guessing on the installation price but you're only talking $879 more than the factory junk that they will put in. I think it's well worth it but that's just my opinion. It's hard to argue about someone's budget with this thread because if you can afford spending an extra $2000 on the factory upgrade, you could probably afford to spend a little extra for a top notch aftermarket system professionally installed. Plus, these prices are straight from JL Audio and I'm sure you could find a better deal by shopping around. Also, I'm just using JL Audio as an example. There are plenty of other manufactures that will rock your car for less money. To answer your question about Kicker, IMO they are a decent product for the price. Personally, I would add or replace the Sub first.



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They're counting the 3-way and 2-way into the total.

So there's likely 3-ways in the doors (2), 3-ways in the rear shelf (2), 2-ways in dash (2) and the dual subs in the rear trunk well for the 18 count.

I've not seen 3-ways done in 3.5" size (front dash), since there's not enough space for 3 drivers in that size.

the Kicker was 13-speaker (6/ 2-ways plus sub = 13 speakers)

The center has a dash speaker in the SXT Plus and R/T models when optioned with the Boston Acoustics SGII (7 wide range plus sub).

The Challenger has a total of 8 speaker openings in the body and depending on trim and audio options it is built with.
3 dash
2 doors
3 rear (L & R), plus opening for 8" BA sub on SGII option.
I should have figured that out myself because you're exactly right. It's misleading because they should be advertising as speaker clusters instead of counting each speaker in a three way system but that's why I'm not making a lot of money in marketing :)


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