[Chad.Darcy]

After getting cmr tune, when at wot in first gear (manual mode and auto mode) when hitting rev limiter - i assume, the trans makes a clunk then goes into limp mode, and check engine light comes on with no codes setting. Then I have no drive or reverse function unless I power cycle the car. I havent found a solid answer, but it sounds that by raising the rev limiter using the predator by 200-300 rpms this may solve my problem.

Anyone have any insight or experience with this ???

 

[Phinatic]

I've hit the rev limiter a bunch of times and it never went into limp mode, but I do have a 6-speed.

Did you beef up your valve train when you rebuilt your motor? If not, I would not raise the rev limiter.

 

[Chad.Darcy]

raised rev limit +250 same problem
lowered rev limit -250 same problem
diabled esp same problem
did key trick while driving to diable everything same problem

anyone have any ideas ??

 

[RICHSRT8]

Were all the modules checked for fault codes,PCM,TCM,ABS,TIPM??Did you run a datalog and have the tuner look at it?

 

[crow]

The problem lies within the TCM. You need to raise the shift points, but the predator does not allow it on 09 and up. One option is a B&G TCM, but they ain't cheap.

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[PWR_Andy]

Just stop hitting the rev limiter. Most LX's do the same thing.

 

[Speedy!]

Just stop hitting the rev limiter. Most LX's do the same thing.

Brilliant!

 

[Flat Top]

Well, I think its your cmr tune,, in conjunction with pcm and tcm there is a tq manipulation and speed sensor settings. Tuners spend a lot of time there I was told. I have an 07 tcm with gear hold in my 09 RT. When I was having my tune worked on, we ran my car up in these setting untill it also went to limp mode right at the rev limit. I made a couple more pulls and the tuner adjusted it with the CMR software until it didnt go to limp mode, having maximizing tq settings. Food for thought.
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[Chad.Darcy]

The problem lies within the TCM. You need to raise the shift points, but the predator does not allow it on 09 and up. One option is a B&G TCM, but they ain't cheap.

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so for clairification, adjust rev limits would be pointless unless shift points are changed ?

 

[crow]

so for clairification, adjust rev limits would be pointless unless shift points are changed ?

Correct.......the tranny just doesn't shift fast enough, and once you hit close to 6000 RPM, bang, limp mode. Basically, the rate of engine rpm increase freaks out the tcm.

 

[PWR_Andy]

The limp mode is caused by hitting the rev limiter before it can shift gears. Raise the rev limiter up so that there is a larger gap between the shift point and the rev limiter which will minimize the issue.

BTW, how much power did it make and at what boost level?

 

[Chad.Darcy]

The limp mode is caused by hitting the rev limiter before it can shift gears. Raise the rev limiter up so that there is a larger gap between the shift point and the rev limiter which will minimize the issue.

raised the rev limited by 600 (max on predator) and problem still happened


BTW, how much power did it make and at what boost level?

476 hp 480 torque (to clarify, you do know that it is your short block in there ?)

 

[PWR_Andy]

Yes sir. I wouldn't have helped someone else's customer. Lol, jk. How much boost was that?

 

[Chad.Darcy]

Yes sir. I wouldn't have helped someone else's customer. Lol, jk. How much boost was that?

10.....for now

 

[ujokin2]

Well like Andy has said.... with all that new found power come's the reality.... with STREET tires you just CANNOT stomp the pedal... cause all your going to do is embarrass yourself... and continue to hit limp mode. You can adjust rev limiter all you want...only can adjust it so far... then you just have to learn....

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[Chad.Darcy]

Its something I can deal with, but the car belongs to pops. Really don't want him hitting limp mode if he get excited at a stop light on a busy street. But am thinking there may not be a solution.

 

[Flat Top]

As I said, its in the cmr software you have to make the changes, your preditor or trinity will do Nothing. Mine done the exactely as yours is during the forum wars I went to and I had just installed a sc had a stock vortech tune, CMR software was on site with RDP Dyno Steve we used the parking lot and street for a dyno, he tweeked these problems away. Just sayin,,,, I had this same problem. And thats the fix.
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[Speedy!]

As I said, its in the cmr software you have to make the changes, your preditor or trinity will do Nothing. Mine done the exactely as yours is during the forum wars I went to and I had just installed a sc had a stock vortech tune, CMR software was on site with RDP Dyno Steve we used the parking lot and street for a dyno, he tweeked these problems away. Just sayin,,,, I had this same problem. And thats the fix.
FlatTop

There ya go Chad. Sounds like these guys are telling ya what the fix is.

Who tuned the car? Having this issue makes me wonder about the tuning as a whole.

I think 10psi has more than 476HP in it, especially with a motor from Andy.

 

[PWR_Andy]

Its just a forged 5.7 but with it being a centrifugal blower, tq should not be equal to hp. Tells me that timing is really lazy up top or air/fuel is fat. Centrifugals almost always have 40-50 more hp than tq.

Also, we dont know what dyno this was on. 475rwhp on one dyno is crappy and on another its huge. All depends on where the baseline is.

 

[Speedy!]

Its just a forged 5.7 but with it being a centrifugal blower, tq should not be equal to hp. Tells me that timing is really lazy up top or air/fuel is fat. Centrifugals almost always have 40-50 more hp than tq.

Also, we dont know what dyno this was on. 475rwhp on one dyno is crappy and on another its huge. All depends on where the baseline is.

True on the dyno. I meant to ask about that....I always assume Dynojet since that's kinda the "standard" as it were.