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I'd not seen this posted here at least. The recall for the cruise control issue for Stage 1 and Demon PCMs

Brand / Trade 1 : Mopar
Model : Stage 1 Kit Performance Package
Part No. : P5160023, P5160025
Size : 6” x 9”
Function : Engine Control
Descriptive Information : Some powertrain control modules (“PCMs”) available for 2014-2016 model year
Dodge Challenger, Dodge Charger, and Chrysler 300 vehicles with 5.7L engines
may not allow the driver to cancel cruise control when the CAN-C bus is fully
disabled.
The population was determined to be all Stage 1 Kit Performance Package PCMs
built with a modified fault handling strategy that will not have their software
updated as a part of routine installation. Similar Dodge Challenger, Dodge
Charger, and Chrysler 300 PCMs are not included in the recall because they have
a different fault handling strategy software or are updated as a part of the
routine installation.
Production Dates : OCT 27, 2014 - JUN 29, 2018
Brand / Trade 2 : Mopar
Model : Demon Crate
Part No. : 68412287AA
Size : 6” x 9”
Function : Engine Control
Descriptive Information : Some powertrain control modules (“PCMs”) available for 2018 model year Dodge
Challenger SRT Demon vehicles may not allow the driver to cancel cruise control
when the CAN-C bus is fully disabled.

The population was determined to be all Demon Crate PCMs built with a
modified fault handling strategy that will not have their software updated as a
part of the routine installation. Similar Dodge Challenger SRT Demon PCMs are
not included in the recall because they have a different fault handling strategy
software or are updated as a part of the routine installation.
Production Dates : OCT 20, 2017 - JUN 29, 2018
Description of Remedy Program : FCA US will conduct a Voluntary Equipment Safety Recall to replace the
PCMs with one that contains updated software or perform a software flash
to update the PCM software.
FCA US has a longstanding policy and practice of reimbursing owners who
have incurred the cost of repairing a problem that subsequently becomes
the subject of a field action. To ensure consistency, FCA US, as part of the
owner letter, will request that customers send the original receipt and/or
other adequate proof of payment to the company for confirmation of the
expense.
How Remedy Component Differs
from Recalled Component :
Part Name: MODULE - ENGINE CONTROLLER
Part Description: MODULE - ENGINE CONTROLLER
Part Number: P5160023, P5160025, 68412287AA
Comment: These are the recalled part numbers. The remedy parts contain
updated software.
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2018/RCLRPT-18E053-6674.pdf

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I don't see why you would. I doubt any Demon owners will accept losing the Demon 100 octane tune on their PCMs. This is a separate bulletin for the Stage 1 and Demons, so assume they flash them specifically with just the fix. A Guy
 

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My wife went and asked the dealer today if they were capable of doing this now. They said, they have to swap in the original PCM, do the flash and then swap it back out for the Scat Pack 1 PCM. Does this sound correct? Am I able to swap out the Scat Pack 1 PCM for the original in my drive way and then drive it to the dealer, have them do the reflash and then drive the car home a swap the PCM myself? I just want to make sure that they do not take any "shortcuts" to get it done. Would I have to do the throttle "relearn" after swapping the PCMs?
 

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My wife went and asked the dealer today if they were capable of doing this now. They said, they have to swap in the original PCM, do the flash and then swap it back out for the Scat Pack 1 PCM. Does this sound correct? Am I able to swap out the Scat Pack 1 PCM for the original in my drive way and then drive it to the dealer, have them do the reflash and then drive the car home a swap the PCM myself? I just want to make sure that they do not take any "shortcuts" to get it done. Would I have to do the throttle "relearn" after swapping the PCMs?
Makes no sense to flash the one your not using

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I'm not sure how updating the stock PCM, then switching back to the Stage 1 could work. Unless the actual change is made outside the PCM, then this would make no sense. The bulletin muddies the water by mentioning replacement PCM AND possibility of a flash

Description of Remedy Program : FCA US will conduct a Voluntary Equipment Safety Recall to replace the PCMs with one that contains updated software or perform a software flash to update the PCM software.
But the way it appeared/appears to me, they would be exchanging the PCM for a Stage 1 already updated

How Remedy Component Differs from Recalled Component :

Part Name: MODULE - ENGINE CONTROLLER

Part Description: MODULE - ENGINE CONTROLLER

Part Number: P5160023, P5160025, 68412287AA

Comment: These are the recalled part numbers. The remedy parts contain updated software.
Not sure if Luke @stevewhiteparts is familiar and can advise, but I doubt what your dealer told you is correct :(

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there is a process in place where the customer needs to contact their local dealer, in turn the dealer will call the manufacturer who validate the vehicle and issue a part number for the dealer to order

pretty straight forward process

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the pcm will be replaced with a new pcm, not flashed.....

recall U82

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Thanks, my dealer insists, just got off the phone with them, that they swap the Scat Pack 1 PCM with my stock one, flash it and then swap it back. Oh well I'll let them do it their way. If it does not work and I get killed using the cruise, my wife will be able to hire a pool boy and retire with him in the Bahamas.
 

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Thanks, my dealer insists, just got off the phone with them, that they swap the Scat Pack 1 PCM with my stock one, flash it and then swap it back. Oh well I'll let them do it their way. If it does not work and I get killed using the cruise, my wife will be able to hire a pool boy and retire with him in the Bahamas.
idiots, find a new dealer:|
 

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I wonder if @DodgeCares could contact my dealer and tell them how to do the recall. If I go get it done and it is done wrong it will never get fixed right as it will show as it is already done. Last performance parts I buy of off the interweb. But I can be at Summit racing in 20 minutes.
 

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I wonder if @DodgeCares could contact my dealer and tell them how to do the recall. If I go get it done and it is done wrong it will never get fixed right as it will show as it is already done. Last performance parts I buy of off the interweb. But I can be at Summit racing in 20 minutes.
Hi Frank Julian,
We understand your concerns. We are happy to have a case escalated in your behalf so a Case Specialist can work with your dealer to help address this. If you are interested, please send us a private message with your VIN and current mileage.
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Hi Frank Julian,
We understand your concerns. We are happy to have a case escalated in your behalf so a Case Specialist can work with your dealer to help address this. If you are interested, please send us a private message with your VIN and current mileage.
Lydia
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Will do as soon as I get home from work.
Thanks

Do you need my dealer's info too in the PM?
 

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My question would be when they take my expensive scat pac pcm out will the new replacement be a performance tuned scat pac pcm by arrow racing ? I thought they were no longer available and arrow racing no longer did them.
 

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there is a process in place where the customer needs to contact their local dealer, in turn the dealer will call the manufacturer who validate the vehicle and issue a part number for the dealer to order

pretty straight forward process

Luke
Does the replacement have the vehicle VIN number label and CARB exemption decal?
 

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Hi Frank Julian,
We understand your concerns. We are happy to have a case escalated in your behalf so a Case Specialist can work with your dealer to help address this. If you are interested, please send us a private message with your VIN and current mileage.
Lydia
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just sent you a pm, you may have gotten 2, they are the same, it did not look like it went the first time.
 

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has to have it in order to comply
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I’m sorry Luke. I still don’t understand. I bought the Scat Pack Level 1 PCM from Steve White and installed it in my 2016 RT Challenger 5.7. Now it has been recalled.Will the special Arrow Racing calibration that came programmed in the unit be erased and reflashed with with the ordinary engine calibration plus the cruise control fix? In other words, do I loose my scat pack calibration? That would suck.
 

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I’m sorry Luke. I still don’t understand. I bought the Scat Pack Level 1 PCM from Steve White and installed it in my 2016 RT Challenger 5.7. Now it has been recalled.Will the special Arrow Racing calibration that came programmed in the unit be erased and reflashed with with the ordinary engine calibration plus the cruise control fix? In other words, do I loose my scat pack calibration? That would suck.
They're supposed to replace the Scat Pack PCM with another one with the same tuning on it and the cruise control fix. If they just flashed one in your car it will go back to being stock. I wonder if I send my stock PCM out to have it unlocked if the people that unlock it can put the cruise control fix on it.

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