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I figured I would post this for everyone to see and was hoping our resident experts may have some insight on what is to come. I was thinking about buying a used B5 Scat Pack Shaker but would like to know what is going down for 2020. Still thinking about a 1320 but I am hoping Dodge will allow stripes as an option for 2020. From other threads, I've gathered that ordering for 2020 will begin in September of 2019 and production will start in November of 2019. Does anyone have a guess as to when Dodge will announce the new model year to include any new models or options? Is there any event in mid to late summer that would serve as a good platform to do this? Does anyone know when ordering a 2019 model will close? Finally, anyone think that the late ordering for 2020 as well as late production signifies a refresh?
 

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Well since we've gotten no new info from Dodge at the New York Auto Show this year, and no hints from inside sources, we have absolutely no info for 2020 model year yet.

There is a chance that 2020 model year info will be released this Summer, maybe in August at the Woodward dream cruise. It certainly is due for a refresh. I do wonder why they've been so quiet about it.
 

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I was going to mention that I can understand their secrecy to a point considering that they want to sell as many 2019's as possible. But at some point, hopefully soon, they are going to have to start dropping some hints and eventually announce whatever they may have planned so the fervor can build. It would also give people a chance to order/buy a 2019 if colors or options were no longer going to be available for 2020.
 

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I think that the deadline for ordering a 2019 would be sometime in June or July. I think that the Brampton assembly plant shuts down in August for a few weeks for summer vacation or for retooling. Then after that, they start building for the 2020 model year releasing the 2020 models in the fall sometime.
 

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This year way late and they don't always retool if they don't have to. Last year they took 5 weeks off and that was very unusual, some years almost no time off, just depends on sales.

So how late you can order a 19 and how long 19 will go on will depend on a management decision on how long the downtime will be. 2020 starts Nov 18th so if 2019 runs into late October then you should still be able to order a 19 into late August early September but we just don't know if Brampton will have another extended shutdown or not.

Either way, don't expect to see 2020 models at your dealer until Christmas.

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Is the 2019 the last year for this body style? I’m wondering if the 2020 will be a whole new platform
from more recent reports, this platform continues - more revisions under the skin (suspension, mechanical) and the LA series continues on.

if there's a refresh, its likely to be subtle, much like going from '10 to '11 model year.
 

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I would imagine this generation will still get a refresh before the new generation. I have no idea though, Dodge really isn't saying much. I think all we can do is speculate.
 

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IMO any dramatic re-styling of this very successful, retro looking car would diminish it's appearance. I had looked into that before ordering my 2019. All I could find out was what Hal said earlier, tweaks beneath the skin but no major re-styling.
 

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Pure speculation....the 2020's will get refreshed grill and tail light changes to mimic the look of the vintage 1972 - 1974 model year cars. Ask yourself what the easiest, cheapest way would be for FCA to restyle the current platform once more to milk more profit out of them. We've had Retro 1970's and now '71's so logically this might (and that's a BIG "might") be the next progression with the current Challenger. I don't really like the thought of that styling coming back, but it may be a possibility.

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I have been wondering same thing. I just started looking at getting a 2018 SRT Hellcat vs 2019 SRT or Redeye. I have figured out if you want a Redeye seems to be worth waiting as inventory seems low and prices still high.
 

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Pure speculation....the 2020's will get refreshed grill and tail light changes to mimic the look of the vintage 1972 - 1974 model year cars. Ask yourself what the easiest, cheapest way would be for FCA to restyle the current platform once more to milk more profit out of them. We've had Retro 1970's and now '71's so logically this might (and that's a BIG "might") be the next progression with the current Challenger. I don't really like the thought of that styling coming back, but it may be a possibility.

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I would actually love to see it go to the 72-74 next. Those years are still instantly recognizable and have the iconic Challenger styling. The biggest reason they aren't as desirable as 70-71 is because they only came with de-tuned smog engines. Obviously if they continue with the current engine lineup, that won't be a problem this time.
 

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Pure speculation....the 2020's will get refreshed grill and tail light changes to mimic the look of the vintage 1972 - 1974 model year cars. Ask yourself what the easiest, cheapest way would be for FCA to restyle the current platform once more to milk more profit out of them. We've had Retro 1970's and now '71's so logically this might (and that's a BIG "might") be the next progression with the current Challenger. I don't really like the thought of that styling coming back, but it may be a possibility.

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I think going to the '72-'74 style would be a dud...its the least desirable styling. Both at the time when it came out and in the collecting market.

I'd expect if there were styling changes, thing of how the front & rear facias received a more refined (vs. the more blocky look) styling with '15+ vs. the '08 - '14 versions were done.

So I'd predict if the front rear facias got tweaks, its going to be the '71 style currently in production would be modernized or simplified / streamlined.
 

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Pure speculation....the 2020's will get refreshed grill and tail light changes to mimic the look of the vintage 1972 - 1974 model year cars. Ask yourself what the easiest, cheapest way would be for FCA to restyle the current platform once more to milk more profit out of them. We've had Retro 1970's and now '71's so logically this might (and that's a BIG "might") be the next progression with the current Challenger. I don't really like the thought of that styling coming back, but it may be a possibility.

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Pure specultion LOL. They didn't look as good as the earlier cars. But there will be changes at some point, maybe not for the better.
 

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I have been wondering same thing. I just started looking at getting a 2018 SRT Hellcat vs 2019 SRT or Redeye. I have figured out if you want a Redeye seems to be worth waiting as inventory seems low and prices still high.
from what Luke (@ Steve White) indicated, that most Redeyes will probably be sold orders - I doubt many dealers are going to have floor stock which starts at $72k and can option up to $92k.

That's the price of a Ram 3500 w/ Cummins and dually rear axle + Laramie trim level.

A dealer would probably move more Rams at that price point than Redeye Hellcats. And that's model of Ram isn't the largest volume seller in light of how many Ram 1500s that move off the lot
 

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Speculation of the progression to the 72-74 Challenger style has been raised a time or two on here before several years ago when we thought we were going to get a new Challenger at that time. While it would be interesting to see how the designers could pull off the 72-74 style, I think it would be too risky. The 70-71 style is so much more popular and it is hard to mess with the success of the models we have had. Hindsight is 20/20 so I don't expect the designers to go there. In the 90's when I was younger I didn't even pay attention to the big differences in the styling of the originals, I liked them all. The 73-74 Challenger Rallye was one of my favorite cars. It wasn't until about 20 years ago that I heard the 72-74 Challengers referred to as "The Creature from the Black Lagoon." Once I looked at pictures of the grills sure enough I saw the resemblance with the open mouth and upper lip. Somebody with some mad computer skills could probably put up a nice comparison.

Anyway, they will eventually have to change the car sometime in the future if not in 2020. I actually think it would be cool if they went back to the '70 style of 2008-2014 except with the updated interior and the improved wheel packages. Maybe throw in a few tweaks to differentiate it from the '08-14 models and roll them out with all the neat heritage packages (Scat Pack, Shaker, T/A). At least it would be cool as a 2020 special edition. I would buy one for sure as I do love the styling of the 08-14's
 

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I think going to the '72-'74 style would be a dud...its the least desirable styling. Both at the time when it came out and in the collecting market.

I'd expect if there were styling changes, thing of how the front & rear facias received a more refined (vs. the more blocky look) styling with '15+ vs. the '08 - '14 versions were done.

So I'd predict if the front rear facias got tweaks, its going to be the '71 style currently in production would be modernized or simplified / streamlined.
Just for grins I opened up my software and made up some variations of a fictional 1972 grille in the current 2019 Scat front facia. I can't decide whether I like it or not, but it doesn't look outrageously repugnant - especially in the smoked aluminum versions. I didn't take much time doing these so they could look better in reality I suppose.

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Just for grins I opened up my software and made up some variations of a fictional 1972 grille in the current 2019 Scat front facia. I can't decide whether I like it or not, but it doesn't look outrageously repugnant - especially in the smoked aluminum versions. I didn't take much time doing these so they could look better in reality I suppose.

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Well done! It would not be as bad as I thought it would. Thanks for the look into what might be...
 
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