depends on how much power you plan to make.
Adding a turbo
I have a 2013 sxt challenger I want to add a turbo but was wondering will I need to get a bigger drive train and axle ? If someone could help me with this please.
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The 3.6 is not going to be a cheap and easy system and depending on the miles and cost your better off trading in the car for a R/T...
Your going to spend around 12k to 16 or more to get everything properly done and be prepaird for stuff to break. The installations are not just
a slap it in thing and older drive shaft, trans rear end etc., yep fix those as well get a V8 model that is also easier to mod.
How ever if you got a open wallet here you go.
3.6 Pentastar Performance Parts | Prodigy Performance
Your going to spend around 12k to 16 or more to get everything properly done and be prepaird for stuff to break. The installations are not just
a slap it in thing and older drive shaft, trans rear end etc., yep fix those as well get a V8 model that is also easier to mod.
How ever if you got a open wallet here you go.
3.6 Pentastar Performance Parts | Prodigy Performance
This is a RIPP supercharger setup go to about 5:45 in the video and watch the problems the owner has had. Ry
@MoneyMopar.
I'm going to Supercharge (SC) my '19 SXT next year with a RIPP kit. I've read many....many comments and articles about this very subject. I've gone back and forth about it with many on here. Here's what I know. You DO NOT have to upgrade anything. Not sure what you paid for yours, I bought mine brand new for $22k. It would take me another $20k in upgrades to get to the cost of a current year Scat Pack (SP). Add on a SC and a tune and it'll way be less than "Should have just got a Scat Pack" and potentially have the same RWHP with much cheaper insurance. Though, the SP will still have more RWTQ.
I've seen videos and conversed with others that have the SC on the V6. Many report they do not change a thing and have no issues... but it is a roll of the dice. Some had blown head gaskets not long after, torn up their xmsn or rear diff. I think it depends on how well it was taken care of before installing the SC, who installed it, and if you plan on actually racing it a lot after. Drag racing puts a lot of stress and load on the engine...any flaws get exposed quickly.
If you plan on racing it... I personally would upgrade the brakes, rear diff, and driveshaft/rear drive axles. You can find used Limited Slip Diffs (LSDs) for around $1200. Or go to a local junk yard and see if you can get one.
I have seen or spoken to someone with a SC V6 beat a SP from a dig (0-60) but loose from a roll (40mph up). The video above never shows from a dig and is the outcome I expect from a roll with an experienced drag racer. The SC V6 will slay "stock" R/Ts all day, every day. Many videos on youtube of this very thing. I just want mine faster as I feel there is much potential to be had with the bonus of gapping smug V8 owners.
And for those of you who want to argue about if the SC V6 RWHP can equal (or be greater than) the SP RWHP, there is actual dynos of the SC V6 having 425 RWHP with a well tuned RIPP kit. The stock SP is 475 "crank" HP, which is just around 400 RWHP. Here's a handy guestimator: Wheel Horsepower to Crankshaft Horsepower Guestimator (mk5cortinaestate.co.uk)
Watch this SC V6 beat both a SP and SRT8.
Ripp SuperCharged V6 VS. ScatPack and SRT8 (Track day) - YouTube
In all fairness, there are lots of other variables that go into play with any of these cars: tuned or not, changed out headers and exhaust, tires, etc. Once I start my build, I will post pics on here.
I'm going to Supercharge (SC) my '19 SXT next year with a RIPP kit. I've read many....many comments and articles about this very subject. I've gone back and forth about it with many on here. Here's what I know. You DO NOT have to upgrade anything. Not sure what you paid for yours, I bought mine brand new for $22k. It would take me another $20k in upgrades to get to the cost of a current year Scat Pack (SP). Add on a SC and a tune and it'll way be less than "Should have just got a Scat Pack" and potentially have the same RWHP with much cheaper insurance. Though, the SP will still have more RWTQ.
I've seen videos and conversed with others that have the SC on the V6. Many report they do not change a thing and have no issues... but it is a roll of the dice. Some had blown head gaskets not long after, torn up their xmsn or rear diff. I think it depends on how well it was taken care of before installing the SC, who installed it, and if you plan on actually racing it a lot after. Drag racing puts a lot of stress and load on the engine...any flaws get exposed quickly.
If you plan on racing it... I personally would upgrade the brakes, rear diff, and driveshaft/rear drive axles. You can find used Limited Slip Diffs (LSDs) for around $1200. Or go to a local junk yard and see if you can get one.
I have seen or spoken to someone with a SC V6 beat a SP from a dig (0-60) but loose from a roll (40mph up). The video above never shows from a dig and is the outcome I expect from a roll with an experienced drag racer. The SC V6 will slay "stock" R/Ts all day, every day. Many videos on youtube of this very thing. I just want mine faster as I feel there is much potential to be had with the bonus of gapping smug V8 owners.
And for those of you who want to argue about if the SC V6 RWHP can equal (or be greater than) the SP RWHP, there is actual dynos of the SC V6 having 425 RWHP with a well tuned RIPP kit. The stock SP is 475 "crank" HP, which is just around 400 RWHP. Here's a handy guestimator: Wheel Horsepower to Crankshaft Horsepower Guestimator (mk5cortinaestate.co.uk)
Watch this SC V6 beat both a SP and SRT8.
Ripp SuperCharged V6 VS. ScatPack and SRT8 (Track day) - YouTube
In all fairness, there are lots of other variables that go into play with any of these cars: tuned or not, changed out headers and exhaust, tires, etc. Once I start my build, I will post pics on here.
Trust U2 videos like gambling Remember his Challenger is a 2013 not a newer one... Some of those Ripps have had major failure and those style of Super Chargers have blown seals and leaked lubricant causing the failure.
Sounds like an expensive risk to take! That would suck if you dropped $20k into your Challenger for some extra hp and have something seriously go wrong with the engine that would cost thousands more to fix
A stock scat pack has 425-435hp to the wheels and way more torque.@MoneyMopar.
I'm going to Supercharge (SC) my '19 SXT next year with a RIPP kit. I've read many....many comments and articles about this very subject. I've gone back and forth about it with many on here. Here's what I know. You DO NOT have to upgrade anything. Not sure what you paid for yours, I bought mine brand new for $22k. It would take me another $20k in upgrades to get to the cost of a current year Scat Pack (SP). Add on a SC and a tune and it'll way be less than "Should have just got a Scat Pack" and potentially have the same RWHP with much cheaper insurance. Though, the SP will still have more RWTQ.
I've seen videos and conversed with others that have the SC on the V6. Many report they do not change a thing and have no issues... but it is a roll of the dice. Some had blown head gaskets not long after, torn up their xmsn or rear diff. I think it depends on how well it was taken care of before installing the SC, who installed it, and if you plan on actually racing it a lot after. Drag racing puts a lot of stress and load on the engine...any flaws get exposed quickly.
If you plan on racing it... I personally would upgrade the brakes, rear diff, and driveshaft/rear drive axles. You can find used Limited Slip Diffs (LSDs) for around $1200. Or go to a local junk yard and see if you can get one.
I have seen or spoken to someone with a SC V6 beat a SP from a dig (0-60) but loose from a roll (40mph up). The video above never shows from a dig and is the outcome I expect from a roll with an experienced drag racer. The SC V6 will slay "stock" R/Ts all day, every day. Many videos on youtube of this very thing. I just want mine faster as I feel there is much potential to be had with the bonus of gapping smug V8 owners.
And for those of you who want to argue about if the SC V6 RWHP can equal (or be greater than) the SP RWHP, there is actual dynos of the SC V6 having 425 RWHP with a well tuned RIPP kit. The stock SP is 475 "crank" HP, which is just around 400 RWHP. Here's a handy guestimator: Wheel Horsepower to Crankshaft Horsepower Guestimator (mk5cortinaestate.co.uk)
Watch this SC V6 beat both a SP and SRT8.
Ripp SuperCharged V6 VS. ScatPack and SRT8 (Track day) - YouTube
In all fairness, there are lots of other variables that go into play with any of these cars: tuned or not, changed out headers and exhaust, tires, etc. Once I start my build, I will post pics on here.
If you just drive the supercharged V6 normal and get on it from a roll once in a while you shouldn’t have any problems but if you like drag tracing or go from a dig often you WILL break a bunch of stuff and still be slower than a Scat Pack.
Bang for the buck in a Challenger is probably buying a low mileage RT and getting a supercharger and keeping it at 8psi. That drivetrain including transmission can handle that level of power successfully.
I can agree with everything you stated. The SP RWHP is just a guess, I have yet to see an actual dyno. Probably find one on YouTube. The SXT V6 is not designed for racing at all. But I'm going from a perspective of... I just want to make mine a fast sleeper when I need to be. I don't intend on drag racing at all. I like to make do with what I have while making it better if I can. I want that feeling of accomplishment of taking something meant to be a daily and making it an unexpected beast. V8s already come with the notion of badassery, not the V6.A stock scat pack has 425-435hp to the wheels and way more torque.....
Meh...You can find Pentastar engines for cheap, they are in lots of vehicles. I bet you can find one easily at a local junkyard for less than a grand if you blow out the one you got. Me personally, If I was to do Drag Racing with mine. I'd go buy another used engine and drop forged internals with hardened headbolts in as my spare.
The RIPP kit is selling for ~$6.2K. They were just about $7k a year ago. Even with the canned tune it comes with it pushes about 395ish RWHP. Add another $1k for a dyno tune and I'm still not at $30k total because I paid $22k for mine. A brand new SXT is now $32k. If I bought one today...It'd be the R/T and not the SXT. But I got mine on sale and already paid it off. I also like the insurance cost of the V6 too.
The additional $20k I suggested would be for going all out: RIPP Kit, dyno tune, forged internals, brakes upgrade, suspension, etc. A new Scat Pack is about $46k now.
IF your not a Mechanic and have all the knowledge and tools etc., the money pit will be deep. If your determined no matter what is advised that's cool but your not cheaply going to out do an Hemi Setup, Now if you want to really go for broke get the European Pentastar Engine and drive train because they were designed different from the Factory for Boost.
i don’t think he wants to outdo a hemi… he just wants a sleeper. though i’m not really sure what the visual differences are with the v6.
maybe just put a kia badge on it??
maybe just put a kia badge on it??
Unlock the PCM Tune then run High Octane and put a Bottle of NOS to it that wont hold up long either.
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