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Looking for suggestions, the car comes with drag radials. Which I want to change immediately.
my plan is to put the drag tires on some generic rims for the strip and get some decent tires on the stock rims. I avoid driving in the wet and don’t drive in the snow (and salt).
so suggestions for tires would be appreciated?
and perhaps rims for the drag radials? Are light weight or heavy rims best?

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Looking for suggestions, the car comes with drag radials. Which I want to change immediately.
my plan is to put the drag tires on some generic rims for the strip and get some decent tires on the stock rims. I avoid driving in the wet and don’t drive in the snow (and salt).
so suggestions for tires would be appreciated?
and perhaps rims for the drag radials? Are light weight or heavy rims best?

thanks.
For tires for the type of usage you describe you could get the same tires the "standard" Scat Pack comes with. IIRC mine came with Pirelli All Season Performance tires. As did my Hellcat.

Or if there is a "summer" high performance tire available for the car get that tire. With other cars I ran "summer" high performance tires year 'round -- here where I live no snow/ice (ever). Cool temps and rain (sometimes) so I had to cool my jets in these conditions.

As long as the wheels are the right size, will fit the car without any problems, and will accommodate the tires you want to use and are strong enough to withstand what you are going to subject them too, lighter is better than heavier. Lighter wheels require less power to turn. You want to be sure the tires won't spin on the rims.
 

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For tires for the type of usage you describe you could get the same tires the "standard" Scat Pack comes with. IIRC mine came with Pirelli All Season Performance tires. As did my Hellcat.

Or if there is a "summer" high performance tire available for the car get that tire. With other cars I ran "summer" high performance tires year 'round -- here where I live no snow/ice (ever). Cool temps and rain (sometimes) so I had to cool my jets in these conditions.

As long as the wheels are the right size, will fit the car without any problems, and will accommodate the tires you want to use and are strong enough to withstand what you are going to subject them too, lighter is better than heavier. Lighter wheels require less power to turn. You want to be sure the tires won't spin on the rims.
Thanks much for the detailed reply, appreciate, the Pirelli tires are a reasonably decent price too.

leads me to another question, what would be the reason the tires would spin on rims, is that due to material of rims, poor installation or something else? Then I guess how would you be sure it wouldn’t happen?
 

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No factory tire option on 1320, it will come only with the drag radials.

I'd keep the stock wheels and tires and then just look for a takeoff set of Hellcat wheels with factory 275 all seasons.

Tire slip on the wheels will only happen with the drag radials aired down, no concern with street tires at 32 psi.


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No factory tire option on 1320, it will come only with the drag radials.

I'd keep the stock wheels and tires and then just look for a takeoff set of Hellcat wheels with factory 275 all seasons.

Tire slip on the wheels will only happen with the drag radials aired down, no concern with street tires at 32 psi.


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Thanks. I get it now. Good solution too (y)
 

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Thanks much for the detailed reply, appreciate, the Pirelli tires are a reasonably decent price too.

leads me to another question, what would be the reason the tires would spin on rims, is that due to material of rims, poor installation or something else? Then I guess how would you be sure it wouldn’t happen?
The tire spinning on the rim was referring to if you move the DR tires to the other rims. Especially if the rims are not factory and not intended for use with DR tires.

DR tires have exceptional grip. They are often run at low pressure. Thus tire spinning on the rim is possible.

With aftermarket rims of an unknown quality it could be rim/wheel material, finish, poor wheel quality.

My intent was to caution you against going too far down the quality of wheel line and just throwing the DR tires on any old set of rims.

Even with good rims poor installation may play a role. I know for my Porsche tires Porsche called for the use of special tire bead lube for the mounting of the tire to the wheel but afterwards also helped the tire bead and wheel rim develop a good non-slip "bond". Besides this the factory called for letting the new tires sit 24 hours after mounting to futher help the bond develop. Putting freshly mounted tires right on the road could lead to the tires spinning.

While I was always mindful of the new tires being "slippery" when new and giving them a chance to "break in" (get hot and drive out any volatile and slippery stuff -- mold release has been mentioned) and in doing so did not tax the tire bead/rim bond not every driver did the same. The risk is if one wanted to use full throttle on new tires the new tires could spin on the rims.
 

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The tire spinning on the rim was referring to if you move the DR tires to the other rims. Especially if the rims are not factory and not intended for use with DR tires.

DR tires have exceptional grip. They are often run at low pressure. Thus tire spinning on the rim is possible.

With aftermarket rims of an unknown quality it could be rim/wheel material, finish, poor wheel quality.

My intent was to caution you against going too far down the quality of wheel line and just throwing the DR tires on any old set of rims.

Even with good rims poor installation may play a role. I know for my Porsche tires Porsche called for the use of special tire bead lube for the mounting of the tire to the wheel but afterwards also helped the tire bead and wheel rim develop a good non-slip "bond". Besides this the factory called for letting the new tires sit 24 hours after mounting to futher help the bond develop. Putting freshly mounted tires right on the road could lead to the tires spinning.

While I was always mindful of the new tires being "slippery" when new and giving them a chance to "break in" (get hot and drive out any volatile and slippery stuff -- mold release has been mentioned) and in doing so did not tax the tire bead/rim bond not every driver did the same. The risk is if one wanted to use full throttle on new tires the new tires could spin on the rims.
excellent information, thanks again. This has probably saved me from making a big mistake. Seems best to leave the drag radials on the factory rims and go for a set of stock take offs, more $$ but sounds worth spending a little extra to get it right.??
 

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Personally, I'd look at other choices beyond the OEM Pirelli models used. Even the all-season verions offered don't have great tread life (as in maybe 24K in the best of circumstances).

A number of members in my area have SRT models and the Pirelli Nero have very short tread life and the Pirelli Nero Zero (all season version) are marginally longer tread wear.

Many have commented when they switched to other makes / models of tires, better grip more "secure" feel and longer wearing tread life. We have a few members with Hellcats, both standard body and widebody and a handful of Hellcat Redeye models (both body styles)
 

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Thanks.
Keeping the drag radials on the factory rims brings me back to the (modified) question of good tire/ rim combination for “normal” use. There are take off rims only available, looks like I’ll need hellcat rims as the standard scat rims are narrower, either that or aftermarket, and if not p zero then what would be better for “normal” driving?
 

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Lots of folks running Nitto NT-555 G2 (summer tire, but behaves well in cold), next I'll see Conti Extreme Contact DWS06 (all season Hi-Po tire) as the popular replacements around in my area
 

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I’m in East Tennessee, weather is reasonably temperate, this will not be an EDD, only in rain if caught by surprise and never in snow/ice or when salt on road.
 

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For long-wearing, reasonably priced, ultra high performance all-season tires, I highly recommend the Cooper Zeon RS3-G1 tires. I bought mine from Discount Tire, one of our supporting vendors, and I am very pleased with them.

Check out the video reviews.

 

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I have a question about the stock 1320 rims. The literature refers to "light weight" wheels. Are they lighter than standard scat pack wheels?
I took my rims and 4 drag radials off my 1320. Is the "light weight" wheel going to be a rare item?
 

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I have a question about the stock 1320 rims. The literature refers to "light weight" wheels. Are they lighter than standard scat pack wheels?
I took my rims and 4 drag radials off my 1320. Is the "light weight" wheel going to be a rare item?
they are forged wheels - the SRT wheels and the optional WRT and the T/A model wheels wheel are forged, lighter than the conventional cast aluminum wheels that are on the various other trims R/T, Scat Pack wheels.
 

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they are forged wheels - the SRT wheels and the optional WRT and the T/A model wheels wheel are forged, lighter than the conventional cast aluminum wheels that are on the various other trims R/T, Scat Pack wheels.
Thank you Hal H for that fact. I think I will keep them off the car and in storage.
 
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