[03sicksrt]

I just did a search for new inventory within 50 miles of my house (southeast detroit) and there are still 11 FF R/t Classic 5speeds, 2 FF R/t 6speeds and 1 FF SRT 6speed.

Looks like the market was missed with this color. They should have just made the car Panther Pink.

 

[Thumpr]

Well as a Furious Fuchsia owner I will say that they dropped the ball on marketing the car and also properly training the dealers and their salespeople. They also missed the original delivery dates by more than a few months so they missed the entire summer of having it driven so people could see it.

The only way I found out about the car was from the releases from the Chicago 2010 auto show. In the original releases it said they would be delivered in the summer. I did not preorder one but by September I realized that I had not seen one on the road, and I live in a "crazy" car area in Canada. When I dropped into the dealership and asked about it the salesman looked at me like I was nuts and then went off to talk with the sales manager and most likely a few other people because he did not come back for about 10 minutes. He actually asked me when he came back "How the heck did you know about this car as none of us knew anything?" :scratchhead: It turned out the cars were finally at the local depot and were going to be delivered over the next week or two. I picked up my girl, after the salesman tracked down an SRT8 6 Speed, at the beginning of October and it was one of the happiest days of my life :thumbsup:

 

[IDMTfirefighter]

Well the FF was not as big a hit as I would have expected but overall Chrysler has made huge strides in the last few years :bigthumb:
And thumpr is right...sales department in car dealerships historically don't know jack

 

[huggytree]

instead of FF they should have done Sublime...it was the color everyone was and STILL is asking for.

they didnt make many of them and though the color wouldnt be for me i can see how some people would like it....i think their biggest problem is delivering them 3 months late...if it would have been mid summer 2010 id bet they'd all be gone

then every dealer also wanted a premium for them...that didnt help sell them either...

some dealers seem to still want a premium

 

[nakita7]

Epic Fail.

There are dealerships around here that still have 2 or 3 FF cars on their own lots! I was looking at a white striped RT last fall. Loved it, but I think I'm going to get a GWE car. Like most dealerships, they were/are too in love with their cars and didn't want to deal. "Rare car, better get one, they won't last long, blah blah". Really?

I agree 100%...they should have been Panther Pink. They would have literally flew off the lots. They could have added the metallic, not sure what they were thinking? I understand demographic studies and colour trends etc, but they OWN the colour Panther Pink, and its hugely collectible today. I personally don't hate the new colour (Fuschia was one of our wedding colours), but its a weird colour up close. Its not pink, its not purple, it looks WAY different in sunlight than at dusk/night. They may have tried marketing to young females, but the Challenger is simply not a girls car overall.

On the upside, as someone who has done many collectibles, the "duds" are almost always the hot collectibles in the future. FF and Detonator yellow will be very in demand 20 years from now. They will be bought today for huge discounts, painted over, raced/abused and sitting in farm fields just because they are "That stupid colour".

With the ordering of 2012's literally months away (Right Chrysler?), I do hope they all sell well. I really do. Its funny, I really do NOT like RT Classics, they just don't work for me (been seeing 71 RT's with Cragars for 40 years!) but I think a white striped FF RT is SO SHARP! Congrats to all you FF cars, very cool cars!

 

[Thumpr]

then every dealer also wanted a premium for them...that didnt help sell them either...

some dealers seem to still want a premium

I will agree with the pricing. When I was trying to figure out about the cost and where I could get one I checked a number of dealers in the USA, as we were having a hard time locating the one I wanted in Canada. Every dealer I talked with in Washington and Oregon had presold with about 10k over MSRP. They all told me good luck on laying my hands on one. My dealer up here had originally guaranteed me MSRP, nothing over, and I snapped it up once they found me exactly what I wanted. Also, it kept my warranty in tack as otherwise if I brought a car up from the states Chrysler Canada and Chrysler USA would have voided all warranties.

 

[Jay H]

I don't think FF was a particualrly well selling color back in 70/71?. It's a bit too Feminine for Me and the Challenger is a Muscle Car.

 

[Thumpr]

Epic Fail.
its a weird colour up close. Its not pink, its not purple, it looks WAY different in sunlight than at dusk/night. They may have tried marketing to young females, but the Challenger is simply not a girls car overall.

I will agree that the color changes in different light and at different angles. It always kills me when I wash it as I really have to pay attention.

However, I will challenge you with regards to your statement that the Challenger is simply not a girls car :fight: The very first car I actually bought was a 72 318 with a shift kit. Now granted I did not buy it new, as I ain't that old yet, but I did get it when I was 16. I loved the hell out of that car and still miss it dearly............damn other driver hit the rear quarter panel and it was a write-off unfortunately :disgust:. As a current female owner of a SRT8 6 speed Furious Fuchsia there is nothing better than having people do a double take when they realize it is a female driving. I also get a lot of women coming up to me in parking lots saying how much they love the car.

I will say that it is more unusual for females to be owners of most muscle cars, especially those that have a lot of kick to them. But then again equal rights is a good thing

 

[69superbee383]

We still have some here as well. I was offered an R/T for 11k off sticker and turned it down. One problem it seems is that the dealers loaded them up with options. One R/T I looked at had an MSRP over over 41k. Thats bumping SRT territory.

It will be interesting to see how the GWE does. Other than the following it has here how will it sell on the lots to the general public?

I think Dodge overall has done a lousy job with color selections and marketing the Challenger in general.

 

[noz34me]

Fuschia or Panther Pink- - neither is or will fly off the lots. Those are niche colors and Chrysler just overestimated the appeal. Marketing guys under and over estimate sales all the time.

 

[Torred Chally Man]

It is a cool colour with the white leather seats but not popular arround here. I have never seen one on the road around here. Alot of FF's still on dealer lots in Southern Ontario.

 

[BayouTigress]

When I dropped into the dealership and asked about it the salesman looked at me like I was nuts and then went off to talk with the sales manager and most likely a few other people because he did not come back for about 10 minutes. He actually asked me when he came back "How the heck did you know about this car as none of us knew anything?" :scratch head:

it is not atypical for the buyer of a car to know more about it than the sales staff. They definetly get testy when women know more about the cars than they do. I asked a Dodge salesman how could you tell the difference visually between th '10 and the '11? He had no clue so I explained the "smiley" vs "frowny" faces on the front.

I agree w/Thumpr about the statement that Challenger is not a girls car. I see almost as many women driving the Challenger as I see men. I do see a lot more men at the car shows and tracks. :fight:

 

[allstardrummer]

I don't think the color is the #1 issue. Yes FF is not as popular, but dealers should recognize high gas prices and higher than affordable sales prices for these cars as a deterrent to potential buyers. I would buy a FF if I could afford another SRT.

 

[noz34me]

14 FF Challengers within 50 miles according to the OP. He doesn't say how many Challengers there are, period, but that's got to be a sizable percentage.

If I was Jay Leno, I'd certainly have one, but for me, being able to just afford one, it never was on the list.

 

[03sicksrt]

14 FF Challengers within 50 miles according to the OP. He doesn't say how many Challengers there are, period, but that's got to be a sizable percentage.

If I was Jay Leno, I'd certainly have one, but for me, being able to just afford one, it never was on the list.

The 14 FF in my area account for 36% (38 total 2010 within 50 miles) of the 10's left on lots.

 

[noz34me]

The 14 FF in my area account for 36% (38 total 2010 within 50 miles) of the 10's left on lots.

Statistically, that's pretty significant. Get ready for some real deals on FF's.

 

[BayouTiger]

Dodge is pretty cluless when it comes to colors. They try to make high impact colors "special editions" and want folks to order them sight unseen. The dealers then charge a premium, then they build lots of them and they sit on lots an the early buyers feel like they got screwed. Happened with H.O, B5, and PCP. Now it's FF. The only color that is truly special in my book is DY, as I see very few of them and they are awesome. Not that the others are not, they're just much more common.

 

[MizzouRT]

Fuschia or Panther Pink- - neither is or will fly off the lots. Those are niche colors and Chrysler just overestimated the appeal. Marketing guys under and over estimate sales all the time.

Yes, PP & FF are always going to be a niche color. Trying to sell 1,000 FF R/Ts in a single year is a lot. Panther Pink was a mid-year color for 1970. Dodge only sold about 52 pink R/Ts and 7 T/As, which is one reason why the Panther Pink cars are so rare and collectible today.

Putting the 1,000 FF RTs into perspective, Dodge didn't sell much more than 1,000 RTs in each of DWB, Titanium, Silver, B5 and White in 2009. FF will be relatively rare because it is one year only, but FF isn't extraordinarily rare like PP was.

 

[Lord Warlock]

Even if they had painted it panther pink, that wouldn't have moved well either, there just isn't much market for a pink car. Not knocking the FF cars, i think they look great, but like many others, i'm too insecure in my manhood to be caught driving a pinkish car. (I'm secure enough to drive a bright yellow one though) Panther pink cars in the 70s by the way sold abysmally, hardly anyone ordered a pink car, much less bought one on the lot, they pretty much had to give them away to get rid of them. Only 30 years later are they in demand mainly because they are scarce.

All of the high impact color cars have sold slowly, most prefer the standard set of colors, but it takes a special someone to pick one that stands out in the crowd. When i got my DY last year, there were hundreds on the lots still. Plus you could find pretty much any B5 blue you wanted, provided distance wasn't a factor. Plum Crazy didn't get sold out that quick either. There are still new B5, DY, PCP as well as FF cars currently on lots across the nation. Despite the fact that only 1k-1500 were made in each color. DY is one of the rarest colors as it was made in fewer numbers than most of the others. I love having a unique car that is different than all the other cars in town, if i go to a show i'm almost always the only DY car there.

 

[noz34me]

Maybe Dodge can make Hertz a deal on the FF's for their "adrenaline" collection.