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Since the Obama Administration finalized standards in 2012, to encourage the automotive industry to reach a 54.5 miles per gallon corporate fuel economy average by 2025, manufacturers have been employing every means possible to squeeze another mile out of a gallon of gasoline. A combination of aerodynamics, weight savings, electrification, hybrid technologies and advanced engine management software has gone a long way, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand that you save a lot of fuel when the car isn’t running.

Auto-Stop/Start technology automatically shuts the engine off when the vehicle comes to a full stop, and then starts it again when the driver wants to get moving. If your commute consists of a single stoplight and a long stretch of highway, Auto-Stop/Start isn’t going to save a lot of fuel, but if you drive in a lot of stop-and-go traffic, it can make a big difference in your fuel economy- typically between 3-5%.

How Does It Work?

There are a few different suppliers of such technology, but one of the biggest is Denso. It supplies the technology to all three American manufacturers, as well as the Land Rover, Audi, Fiat, Hyundai, Toyota and Volvo brands.

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In general, auto-stop/start senses that the vehicle has come to a stop, that the engine RPM has fallen either to a full stop or close to it, and that the brake is depressed.

At that point, the system shuts the engine down, and disengages the transmission. When the system senses that the driver is taking her foot off the brake, it restarts the engine while the transmission is still in gear.

This technology is more than just a starter that spins the engine to a start more frequently, but the starter is the single most important component.

How Is the Starter Different?

Since its very introduction, the electric starter on your car has had two jobs: Primarily, to spin the flywheel to start the engine. But they also need to get the pinion gear (see diagram, below) out of the way so that it’s not engaged with the ring gear on the flywheel once the engine is running.

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For a vehicle that only needs to start a few times a day, it’s an ingenious little device that has existed almost unmodified since Charles Kettering received a patent for it in 1917.

But vehicles with auto-stop/start systems have to fire up dozens, and perhaps hundreds of times in a single commute. A traditional starter like Boss Kettering’s simply won’t do the job.

Denso has three different types of Auto-Stop Start starters, depending on the application the manufacturer’s need:

· The first is a pretty traditional starter, but it’s engineered to be more durable, with dual layer, long-life electrical brushes and a unique pinion spring mechanism that reduces ring gear and flywheel wear caused by a typical starter by about 90%.

· The second is a “Tandem Solenoid” starter that allows the engine to re-engage with the starter motor anywhere between idle (about 600 RPM) and zero RPM. That means shaving a second and a half off a restart when compared with a traditional starter.

· The most advanced Denso starter was developed in partnership with Toyota. It’s called a “Permanently Engaged” starter, and as its name suggests, the pinion gear is permanently meshed with the ring gear on the flywheel, which completely eliminates any lag time when the vehicle needs to be restarted.

When you’re out shopping for a new car, sample a few different vehicles to see how they accomplish the auto-stop/start system. There are some that do it more or less seamlessly, like BMW. Others, restart with a significant shudder.

Starter manufacturers also use rubber shock absorbers and a clutches to isolate engine oscillations that help reduce engine-restart noise and engine-stop vibrations.

But the big difference between a smooth start and a rougher one is down to whether they’re using a Permanently Engaged starter or not.

What About the Transmission?

The transmission represents a huge challenge in restarting an engine. In fact, the only vehicles that had auto-stop/start technology prior to 2007 were those with a manual transmission.

When you start your car in the morning, whether you drive a car with a manual or an automatic transmission, the car is either in Park, Neutral, or in gear, but with your foot to the floor on the clutch.

But when you’re in traffic, you’re not shifting the car to park every time you come to a stop. So how does the transmission not stay engaged using an auto-stop/start system? They automatically shift into neutral when the vehicle is stopped. Some incorporate an “Auto Hold” feature like BMW does, that allows the driver to release brake pressure while the engine is still turned off. It reengages when the driver hits the accelerator.

How About Engine Wear?

As is commonly known, cold engine startup is recognized as the most vulnerable time for internal engine components. Lubricant is cold, and it hasn’t had time to pressurize and lubricate all of the moving components on the top of the engine.

Stop/Start systems aren’t as potentially damaging as cold starts, though, simply because the engine isn’t cold. Not only are the engines at operating temperature before the stop/start system begins to work, the vehicles also use electric water pumps to maintain optimal engine temperature when they’re stopped. If the engine is off long enough to reduce engine temperature significantly, the engine will automatically restart.

Secondly, while the engine’s oiling system isn’t completely pressurized as it when it’s running, the oil in the passages hasn’t been allowed to completely run down into the oil pan.

Finally, suppliers are addressing wear with dry lubricants on components like main engine bearings. Engine bearings are typically designed to withstand 100,000 start cycles. New bearings are now in use that are designed to withstand 250,000 to 300,000 start cycles. Federal Mogul, for example, has been incorporating polymers on the connecting rod bearings for cars with auto-stop/start systems to reduce friction when oil isn’t pumping.

What if I Don’t Want It?

To date, every vehicle with this technology allows you to manually override it at the push of a button (see photo of the “A" button, below).

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The downside of disabling this feature is that your fuel economy will be reduced by 3-5% and ( you’ll have to turn it off every time you get into the car. No manufacturer allows you to permanently disable the function.

Owners of sporty cars with “Dynamic” or “Sport” modes will notice that selecting those modes will automatically disable the system, too.

None of this technology is completely settled, and manufacturers and suppliers are working to develop new methods of accomplishing the same goals without the technical hurdles.

For example, Mazda has a technology called i-Stop that doesn’t use a starter for re-starts at all. It uses engine combustion. As a driver releases the brake pedal, the fuel injector in one cylinder fires, and the spark plug ignites, allowing the engine to start with combustion, rather than an electric starter motor.

In the short term, though, you don’t have to worry too much about whether your engine or its various components are being damaged by frequent starts. They’ve been engineered for it, and they’re different than the components in a vehicle without this technology.
 

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When you add cylinder deactivation, it's a cluster f* of potential issues. Some cars (engines) have a hard time being "reliable" and this is just another layer of problems.

This is why I'm 100% pro-EV. What do I mean by that. ICE are not design that way, even if they are. Leave the ICE alone, without all these features.

I like Jay Leno's approach. We should all drive EVs to work Monday-Friday, so we can drive the 454 V8 on the weekends.

Let ICE vehicles be as they are (don't change them). Manufactures do need to commit/sell more EVs.

Using "FCA" examples. There is no need to electricfied, MDS, autostart a Ram 1500. Instead, the Chrysler 200 and Dart should just become EVs. That's the way the clean air credit program was design to work. Not for FCA to pay $350M a year to buy those credits from Tesla.
 

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My DD is a Ford Ranger with this "feature". I bought a $95 module that remembers the state of the override button, so it stays off.

I gave it a try, but REALLY don't like it because:
1. It's not at all seamless. I can feel when the engine stops and when it restarts. There's also just enough restart lag to be annoying.
2. I don't notice any MPG difference. In stop and go where it has the biggest saving potential it's the most annoying.
3. It's far too aggressive. I back into my driveway. When I stop to shift into reverse the engine stops, then restarts; when I stop after backing into place the engine stops, the restarts when I shift to park.

Some people don't mind it. To me that $95 was well spent to be rid of it.
 

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My 2018 Grand Cherokee has this "ASS" system. When it died at the first stoplight I came to it reminded me of when I was young and broke and had a 1974 challenger that used to stall at stop lights until it got warmed up. I'm not young or broke now so I didn't see the need to have a vehicle that stalls at lights anymore. I bought the Smart Stop/Start module which remembers what position the button was in and keeps it there unless you reactivate the system. It bothers me that I had to pay for this EPA "band aid" and then pay to buy something to override the band aid system so I don't have to remember to push another button every time I start the car, just because some politicians and bureaucrats pulled a completely arbitrary mpg number out of their butts. I won't buy another vehicle with it. Nor will I buy the other band aid systems like cylinder deactivation, mild hybrid or direct injection unless it has aux port injectors like Toyota has. Chevy doesn't even give you the opportunity to shut off the ASS, there's no button. As far as EV's, well, I'm not into enabling slave labor and excessive pollution so I won't buy that either. I'm old enough to make a 3.6 Challenger last the rest of my driving life and maybe pick up a Tacoma too before they screw that one up.

We’ll see how it rides up with wear in 10 years. Not for me.
They don't care about what the customer wants anymore. They only care what the politicians want. I coincidentally just finished reading about a member of the Jeep Forum who just got soaked for a starter replacement due to the ASS system. Diamler, FCA, Chrysler, Stellantis, Joe and Sam's, whatever company owns it today, said too bad, so sad, we ain't paying. Not to mention, that smaller second ASS system battery isn't cheap either.
 

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Have it in my two Wranglers, I usually shut it off, have to remember to press start and hit the ess button, but no big deal, operates OK and most of the time I drive my rubicon ( another toy ) it isnt in city. The PITA is they put a small 12V ESS battery to run the accesories when the car is shut off. I have my two Wranglers in back yard under covers for winter dirt nap, so put a battery tender on them to keep the batteries happy.

The E TQ solves the problem by having the Belt Start Generator and a 48V battery under the frame, so when one lifts their foot off the brake the BSG spins the engine, seemless and you dont notice it. I test drove one with it, but choose the 3.6 8spd because wasnt sold on how reliable it would be but guess they work fairly well.

Oh, Odummys 54 MPG wet dream is just that. Gov should just let the market decide what gets built and stay out of it. For the record most folks hate the ESS and an engineer on one of the other boards who worked on the 3.6 said the ESS reduces engine life by about a 3rd, so they were forced to use special coating on the bearings and piston skirts to get 150k out of them.
 

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Gov should just let the market decide what gets built and stay out of it.
Especially since most new gas engines with highly efficient controls today are near zero emission anyway and the World is full of oil and nature keeps making more. This EV thing sounds like a solution looking for a problem. All the busy bodies out there should be concerning themselves with getting China and India to clean up their act and get Asia to stop dumping plastic in the ocean. But for some reason using common sense and logic just doesn't cut it anymore.
 

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I'm old enough to make a 3.6 Challenger last the rest of my driving life and maybe pick up a Tacoma too before they screw that one up.
Those are my two engines choices also. The Pentastar 3.6 in the Charger/Challenger, and the Toyota Tacoma 2.7L I4 are the last old school engines left. No DI, No Turbos, no MDS, no auto start-stop. Just "old school" 4 valves per cylinder port injection.
 

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Those are my two engines choices also. The Pentastar 3.6 in the Charger/Challenger, and the Toyota Tacoma 2.7L I4 are the last old school engines left. No DI, No Turbos, no MDS, no auto start-stop. Just "old school" 4 valves per cylinder port injection.
The Toyota V6 3.5 is good too. It's getting pretty old and has D.I. but it also has secondary port injectors, so the carbon buildup should not be a problem. But I'm really impressed with the Chrysler 3.6 and eight speed. They really did a great job with that engine. I call it a clean engine because it has none of the band aids and early models didn't even have EGR, yet it has power and mileage that exceeds most engines that have all these band aids that supposedly make a difference. I wish Ram would come out with the mid size truck they've been promising for years. That would be a great combo, Challenger SXT and New Dakota 3.6. I can't believe these guys. They tossed two customer categories by not having a mid size truck or a 5th gen full size standard cab truck. I'd hate to go to Toyota but I may have to.
 

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Agree. The lack of a mid-size truck on RAM's part is a mistake. The idea of branding the old Ram as the "Classic" was an excuse for not developing a a proper mid size truck. When you think about it, building a mid size truck is not that hard. Both the Nissan Frontier (mid size), and Nissan Titan (full size) ride on the same frame.

Maybe that's why Nissan Titan can't really compete in the 2500 (or F250), or true HD class. But that's another story.

A mid-size Dakota could build off of the Ram 1500. They build a Jeep Gladiator off of a Ram 1500, so why not?
 

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It dont matter. I heard today that CA has said in 14 years the state will no longer be selling Gas or Diesel fuel. I dont live in CA but that is a hard statement considering not everybody will be able to buy an electric car....and many more like us here, would always want to keep our Challengers or any muscle car we may have.
 

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Don't let fake news cloud the facts. That's not going to happen. Let's think about this. We are too depended on fossil fuel to eliminate it, CA or not. It's really political BS on both sides.

Richard Nixon talked about health care and education. If we really go back, we accomplished nothing..
 

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That's per the CA state Governor. Take it for what it's worth. It's CA. They already said they are banning the selling of any new gas powered vehicles by 2035, including hybrids.

As for gas, who knows.
Can't see it myself, but I don't live there so don't care. I think that would be hard to do by forcing people to sell them which renders them worthless as far as worth and buy electric cars. Id like to keep my Challenger.
 

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It dont matter. I heard today that CA has said in 14 years the state will no longer be selling Gas or Diesel fuel. I dont live in CA but that is a hard statement considering not everybody will be able to buy an electric car....and many more like us here, would always want to keep our Challengers or any muscle car we may have.
They will not be selling brand new cars that use gas. They will still be selling gasoline for the older cars
 

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ESS is not a feature for me.

My 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee was my first vehicle with it. The system was "stupid" It would turn off when I stopped to back my car onto the driveway and at other inappropriate times like when it was 10 degrees out and the car wasn't warm yet.

The decision tree for the ESS stop routine is not followed and I proved it and used that as a justification with my dealer to buy the module to permanently remember when I turned it off.

I've had two other cars with the system and on both, the first thing I've done is buy a new module to permanently turn it off. It has got no better on Jeeps since 2017 and isn't likely to.
 

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...If your commute consists of a single stoplight and a long stretch of highway, Auto-Stop/Start isn’t going to save a lot of fuel, but if you drive in a lot of stop-and-go traffic, it can make a big difference in your fuel economy- typically between 3-5%....
Here is why this 'feature' is so hated... It is forced on everyone, regardless of how/what/where they drive. There is no opt-in or opt-out.

Sure, if I spend hours daily going a few miles in stop & go traffic, give me an option to save some money on gas. But don't cram it down my throat if I live 10 miles from the nearest stoplight. That just makes it stupid - four-way country stop sign, make a complete & legal stop, engine shuts off, 1/2 second later it restarts. That saves nothing and is just friggin annoying.
 

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Of the stop/start systems available in Chrysler products, only the BSG (Belt Start Generator) in the Ram 1500 is halfway bearable to my thinking. It seems to be fairly seamless in operation, at least in new trucks, but I can't feel any improvement in performance and have never heard anyone say that it improves their mileage. I don't have any use for the S/S systems that I have driven or worked on in the dealership, it is a false economy measure that no one likes. As for long term durability, I doubt that the starters will be equal to conventional starters, and the batteries are already proving to be failure prone. On vehicles with a decent amount of miles on them (say 50,000 or more), the already annoying restart is even more noticeable. I have met only ONE person who actually likes having S/S on their vehicle, no one else has ever said anything good about it.
 

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That's per the CA state Governor. Take it for what it's worth. It's CA. They already said they are banning the selling of any new gas powered vehicles by 2035, including hybrids.
Will hover outside of politics, so I don't get in trouble here.

I won't put any weight on that. I lived in CA for a decade, and consider it by 2nd home because of family and friends. CA sucks. I hope everyone leaves so I don't have to pay $1.6M for a house.

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Again, there are States and countries that are phasing out sales of new internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles. There has been no mention about a timeline for gas (Fuel) being phased out
 
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