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Well I installed my Barton Shifter last night - what a beauty that thing is. Finely engineered and manufactured, and coming from a company that has shown there devotion to their customers here on our forum...oh and made in the USA!

Now before I discuss this next point - I want people to understand that it is not a complaint, I read all about this new Barton as well as the Hurst shifter and expected some noise from the thing. I just wanted to get this out there for those considering buying one that are easily annoyed by cabin noise...

This thing is friggin loud in the car while accelerating through the first few gears. Cruising on the highway in 6th gear I can't tell any difference from the stock. But accelerating up through the first 3 gears is like drown out conversations type loud. While sitting at a light with it in neutral with your foot off the clutch you can really hear the flywheel spinning. The shifter feels great and makes shifting a joy but my experience is that it is extremely loud compared to the stock one. It's not a bad noise like grinding or vibrating or anything, it's more like amplifying the engine noise and probably some of the tranny noise right into the cabin through a megaphone. Having the radio up to almost 3/4 will drown out the noise.

My only complaint about the shifter is that no written instructions with torque values were provided with the shifter. The install video they posted was awesome though - very easy to follow and a pretty straightforward install.

I may experiment with that dynomat stuff I've read about some of you guys using. Are you guys just pulling the boot back up an stuffing the sound deadening material down in that cavity?

Thanks, and again I am not posting this as a negative review of the Barton - just sharing my experience. I think it is a great product, and hope that they sell a bunch of them.
 

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Well I installed my Barton Shifter last night - what a beauty that thing is. Finely engineered and manufactured, and coming from a company that has shown there devotion to their customers here on our forum...oh and made in the USA!

Now before I discuss this next point - I want people to understand that it is not a complaint, I read all about this new Barton as well as the Hurst shifter and expected some noise from the thing. I just wanted to get this out there for those considering buying one that are easily annoyed by cabin noise...

This thing is friggin loud in the car while accelerating through the first few gears. Cruising on the highway in 6th gear I can't tell any difference from the stock. But accelerating up through the first 3 gears is like drown out conversations type loud. While sitting at a light with it in neutral with your foot off the clutch you can really hear the flywheel spinning. The shifter feels great and makes shifting a joy but my experience is that it is extremely loud compared to the stock one. It's not a bad noise like grinding or vibrating or anything, it's more like amplifying the engine noise and probably some of the tranny noise right into the cabin through a megaphone. Having the radio up to almost 3/4 will drown out the noise.

My only complaint about the shifter is that no written instructions with torque values were provided with the shifter. The install video they posted was awesome though - very easy to follow and a pretty straightforward install.

I may experiment with that dynomat stuff I've read about some of you guys using. Are you guys just pulling the boot back up an stuffing the sound deadening material down in that cavity?

Thanks, and again I am not posting this as a negative review of the Barton - just sharing my experience. I think it is a great product, and hope that they sell a bunch of them.
I have dynamat all over from the "Hurst days". Doesn't make much of a difference IMO. The Barton is very loud once the tranny fluid gets hot. I have to blast my music to not focus on the noise. I'm planning on removing my tunnel silencer this weekend to allow more exhaust sound to come up through the cabin. I'm hoping that drones out the gravley sounds that come from the tranny. I thought I'd get used to it, but the extra noise is unacceptable, so hopefully removing the silencer helps. I'll keep you posted.
 

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The Tremec 6-speeds are noisy things by nature - one of things the Chrysler engineers had to contend with is the transmission noise is sufficient enough to trigger spurious spark knock readings from the engine's knock sensors...

I've had my Hurst (w/ G&K mod) for ~ 2 years, so there's more driveline and exhaust noise over the OEM shifter with all its softer rubber bushings.

That's the trade off for more precise shift action over the vague long throws of the OEM unit.
 

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I'm glad it's not just me. That's to bad the sound deadening material doesn't help any. Yeah, please keep me updated if you don't mind.

Like I said...it's not like a terrible noise, but you definitely hear the drivetrain now. Like roaringly loud!


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Man I don't know what could be the difference between yours and mine but it's not close to that loud. It definitely isn't conversation drowning loud. If i just have the heat on high I can't hear it.

I wonder if it has anything to do with the back nut on the cover. My theory is that if over torqued either the block or shifter or both may be making direct contact with the cover. Or its just to tightly held against it. If I'm not mistaken that nut is locking. I don't think I could thread it on all the way by hand. Maybe loosening the nut a bit would help.
 

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I put mine in today and in the garage in gear or neutral and with the clutch pushed in its quiet as stock.

I am sticking with the factory handle, could the barton stick be a part of the noise?
 

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Maybe that nut has something to do with it. Mine is definitely pretty tight... The instructions of don't over tighten it are quite vague! If I get bored this weekend I may loosen it up and try it out then.


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I've been running my Barton for 3 weeks now. No noise issues at all.

Something has to be different in yours. Is there any metal-to-metal contact? Was the rubber ring pinched tight?
 

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Yeah. No torque values.

...and mine is quiet as well when I hold the clutch in. There is no load on the tranny when holding it in. I would be scared if it was making noise in that scenario!


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Yeah. No torque values.

...and mine is quiet as well when I hold the clutch in. There is no load on the tranny when holding it in. I would be scared if it was making noise in that scenario!


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On top of the tunnel silencer I am going to get a rubber washer from Lowes and put it on the end of the tunnel cover and see if that helps too. Mine is very tight on there now,... again no torque specs given by Barton so you just have to guess.
 

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Torque would be around 7 foot-pounds, but steel in aluminum with a lock washer is going to stay put even at 2-3 foot-pounds.
 

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Torque would be around 7 foot-pounds, but steel in aluminum with a lock washer is going to stay put even at 2-3 foot-pounds.
In that case mines definitely way too tight. I will loosen it up AND add that rubber washer and see what happens. Again I have NO NOISE until the tranny fluid gets hot, then the all talks to me.
 

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I am going to have to pay attention to this thread as I am on the list to get one.
 

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Wow, my shifter is pretty quiet. I can bearly hear the flywheel and acceleration sounds but absolutely quiet at speed. I bet most of the sound is due to the nature of the solid shifter and if it touches anything or not sitting right you get noise. Good luck getting it quieted down. I know it must be disappointing.
 

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Wow, my shifter is pretty quiet. I can bearly hear the flywheel and acceleration sounds but absolutely quiet at speed. I bet most of the sound is due to the nature of the solid shifter and if it touches anything or not sitting right you get noise. Good luck getting it quieted down. I know it must be disappointing.
Modding isn't always supposed to go right. Anything not specifically made for our car will have it's quirks. This is a brand new product and there are always kinks to work out. I am hopeful that tomorrow with my changes that it will quiet it down a bit, if not silence it. Can't wait to try this tomorrow.
 

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I may tear it back apart this weekend and check for any abnormal contact. I believe that rubber ring was installed correctly. It went in very easy, it was slightly loose in the hole.

If I wasn't so excited taking everything apart I would have checked that rear nut with my torque wrench to see how tight it was from the factory...dang.


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