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In the near future, i will be getting Kooks 1 3/4 long tube headers and catless connection pipes for my challenger TA 5.7 2017.
My question is, what would be a good cam for power gains, and a good sounding lopey sound in idle. Right now I am looking at camshafts on Inertia Motorsports, but i am not sure which one would be the best for my car, i am not "car smart", i know the basics but not in depth.
After long tubes, i will be getting a dyno tune. At some point after that, i will be getting a camshaft and another dyno tune to go along with my LT headers and new cam.
Thank you! Any advice, any recommendations would be very very much appreciated!
 

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First, you have to determine wether or not you’re going to stay na. This is an addicting sport and many opt for forced induction, which ultimately determines what type of camshaft you go with. Unless you want to do it twice. Also bear in mind that you’ll be upgrading lifters , springs , push rods, and a phase limiter, in order to do the job correctly(not that you have to , but probably should). Now if you’re set on staying na , then you need to determine where you want your power. Are you going to stay with the eagle manifold or upgrade to an svt? Also who will be doing the tuning ? They may have a suggestion on cams they’ve tuned before and what they’re comfortable with. All this information is important to any advice to be given , rather than guessing at a blank slate.


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First, you have to determine wether or not you’re going to stay na. This is an addicting sport and many opt for forced induction, which ultimately determines what type of camshaft you go with. Unless you want to do it twice. Also bear in mind that you’ll be upgrading lifters , springs , push rods, and a phase limiter, in order to do the job correctly(not that you have to , but probably should). Now if you’re set on staying na , then you need to determine where you want your power. Are you going to stay with the eagle manifold or upgrade to an svt? Also who will be doing the tuning ? They may have a suggestion on cams they’ve tuned before and what they’re comfortable with. All this information is important to any advice to be given , rather than guessing at a blank slate.


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What do you mean by na?
 

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What do you mean by na?


Naturally aspirated. No boost (supercharger or turbo). Also keep in mind nitrous if that’s something you want to look into later.


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Naturally aspirated. No boost (supercharger or turbo). Also keep in mind nitrous if that’s something you want to look into later.


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Nitrous or a supercharger are not in the future. I'm only 17, so paying for this all i have to plan out and make sure i can afford it all and have enough money left over to pay bills and get by, i could not have nitrous because that would get me tickets which i already have way to many of haha
 

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Cam kits ain't cheap and if you have an auto, depending on how big you go with the cam, you will need to take the heads off to install non-MDS lifters. Don't forget you need an unlocked PCM and tuner and right off the bat that's like $1000...same with headers $1000-$1500. Lot of folks seem to do the budget 6.4 cam swap ~$250 but if you want lopey then those cams usually start around $700. If you need lifter, springs, pushrods and VVT lock/limiter then things start adding up quick. Oh and depending on the cam the torque converter in the trans might need to be swapped for a higher stall. If you don't plan on doing this yourself be prepared to pay ~$100/hr in labor and if the car is still under warranty...at least wait for it to expire before tearing into the engine.
 

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The full kit i had set up on HHP is around 2000, and i would prefer to go with a dyno tune, would that be possible? Labor will be a lot as well which I am okay with
 

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The full kit i had set up on HHP is around 2000, and i would prefer to go with a dyno tune, would that be possible? Labor will be a lot as well which I am okay with
I guess it all depends on the shop doing the work if they have a dyno in-house or need to send the car out for dyno tuning? Sounds like you should be researching performance shops in your area or talking to our performance vendors...like HHP to see not only how much this all will cost but how quickly it can be done as I assume the TA is a daily driver?
 

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I guess it all depends on the shop doing the work if they have a dyno in-house or need to send the car out for dyno tuning?
They have a dyno tune in house, their very reputable and local. Labor is 110 an hour, so that will kill my wallet alone haha
 

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They have a dyno tune in house, their very reputable and local. Labor is 110 an hour, so that will kill my wallet alone haha
You might want to see if they have experience tuning challengers or more generally Dodge as tuning them is different from Chevys and Fords.
 

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You might want to see if they have experience tuning challengers or more generally Dodge as tuning them is different from Chevys and Fords.
Any chance your familiar or anyone else here is familiar with anyone good in ohio? Out of state even, im willing to travel 5-6 hours tops for the best tune and installation i could really get. I've looked at custom tunes online, but i'd have to buy a tuner then for installation which honestly i have no clue as far as that would all go
 

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Any chance your familiar or anyone else here is familiar with anyone good in ohio? Out of state even, im willing to travel 5-6 hours tops for the best tune and installation i could really get. I've looked at custom tunes online, but i'd have to buy a tuner then for installation which honestly i have no clue as far as that would all go
Email tuning is easy (although it may take several iterations) and loading the tunes with a tuner (be it HP tuners or Diablo Sport) is fairly straight forward, but if you want every bit of power then dyno tuning is where it is at.

Hopefully someone else can chime in about a shop near Ohio. Although I would be cautious about finding a shop too far out. If something goes wrong with the car/tune you may wind up having to trailer/tow the car to the shop.
 

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Any chance your familiar or anyone else here is familiar with anyone good in ohio? Out of state even, im willing to travel 5-6 hours tops for the best tune and installation i could really get. I've looked at custom tunes online, but i'd have to buy a tuner then for installation which honestly i have no clue as far as that would all go
BFNY in Cleveland,OH is a Mopar specialist.
 

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Email tuning is easy (although it may take several iterations) and loading the tunes with a tuner (be it HP tuners or Diablo Sport) is fairly straight forward, but if you want every bit of power then dyno tuning is where it is at.

Hopefully someone else can chime in about a shop near Ohio. Although I would be cautious about finding a shop too far out. If something goes wrong with the car/tune you may wind up having to trailer/tow the car to the shop.
The place i plan on using is Redline tuning, they install, have a dyno and use HP tuners. The reviews are very good, i believe its a 5.0 out of like 30 reviews last i saw. I will definitely have to look around for a shop that can do very well and is experienced with mopars though, thank you for that
 

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I actually looked at them, i believe they are the installer listed on HHP's website. They only have 1 review though, which im kind of weary about


BFNY is a good Mopar shop that has built many mopar track cars. No personal experience there but their cars speak for themselves.


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BFNY is the best shop in Ohio. Crucial Performance in Columbus works on Mopars and has put together a few nasty hellcats. OST Dyno is in eastern Pennsylvania, so that is also fairly close.
 
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