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Have a buddy who has a show truck, we were chatting says his detail place killer was. Does a ceramic coating on vehicles. Better shine no water spots. Wondering if anyone has done this , pros, cons. Or is just a good cleaning waxing job enough. Have a 2015 sublime green challenger .rt plus not a daily driver but when nice I have it out. Want to take to some car shows and cruises. North east ohio here.
 

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Average shop price is arund 400-600 dollars but can go higher depending on how many coats you want not to mention the condition of your paint.

I bought a ceramic kit online and did it myself. Pretty much took the whole day as I cleaned, clayed, polished, then applied the ceramic.

Can't really see a difference in shine as I take good care of my car but what I did notice was that bird crap, bugs and dirt don't stick the car very well. A nice power hose wash and pretty much everything comes off.
 

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I have done it. Car pro quartz uk
Pain in the ass. Lots of prep time stuff wipes off very hard. I think ( just my opinion ) a lot of it is hype. I think the shine is better but is it worth 250.00 for me to do it. No
A friend bought gyon kit to try I hope it is easier to do than car pro

If you take it somewhere plan on a grand to do it.
Different strokes for different folks. I don’t think I would do it if I had the chance to go back. Well I can polish it off lol.



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If you have it professionally installed, figure a couple of years at least where you just have to wash it. Some coatings take practice to know when to remove after applying. As mentioned above, otherwise they can be difficult for self application. For me, the 2 stage paint correction my detailer did before coating is the wow factor. 2 years later, water still beads in tight circles. They actually are smaller towards the paint surface, as if the water really didn't want to touch the paint if it doesn't have to, lol. They call that hydrophobic, which means fear of water :thumbsup:

So I had an incredible shine, and then the coating was like a glass shell protecting the paint. You still have to maintain, and use good wash practices to not swirl when washing/drying. If the paint correction and longevity of the coating is worth it to you, then it's easy to maintain. Members here have corrected their own cars, then waxed/sealed and gotten incredible results, some with many months longevity. It all depends on your skills and time.



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Had 9H Ceramic done after they had airbrushed my stripes and "paint corrected" most of the car.
Awesome surface and look!

**SURFACE PREP (paint correction) IS A MUST BEFORE, if you value the investment!
That will push it up around $700!
 

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If you have it professionally installed, figure a couple of years at least where you just have to wash it. Some coatings take practice to know when to remove after applying. As mentioned above, otherwise they can be difficult for self application. For me, the 2 stage paint correction my detailed did before coating is the wow factor. 2 years later, water still beads in tight circles. They actually are smaller towards the paint surface, as if the water really didn't want to touch the paint if it doesn't have to, lol. They call that hydrophobic, which means fear of water :thumbsup:

So I had an incredible shine, and then the coating was like a glass shell protecting the paint. You still have to maintain, and use good wash practices to not swirl when washing/drying. If the paint correction and longevity of the coating is worth it to you, then it's easy to maintain. Members here have corrected their own cars, then waxed/sealed and gotten incredible results, some with many months longevity. It all depends on your skills and time.



Just sayin' :D

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Hey, I'm also in the Bay Area, just wondering if you could tell me who did your detail and coatings? I'm always impressed any time I see one of your SXT photos floating around in the forum.
 

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Have a buddy who has a show truck, we were chatting says his detail place killer was. Does a ceramic coating on vehicles. Better shine no water spots. Wondering if anyone has done this , pros, cons. Or is just a good cleaning waxing job enough. Have a 2015 sublime green challenger .rt plus not a daily driver but when nice I have it out. Want to take to some car shows and cruises. North east ohio here.
was looking in to having my Challenger done and talked to a detailer. He was offering different ceramic coatings for different prices, depending on how long they are supposed to last. The coatings are not permanent with the best ceramic coating good for about 5 years. I felt that it was a lot of $$ to put on a car that will only be a weekend driver so I opted for a traditional detail and wax job.
I still would like to protect the front of my Challenger from getting road rash. Looks like there are two choices, one being a car bra and the other being a clear bra. The clear bra is also expensive to have installed and they are not permanent either. I am still looking for answers.
 

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Hey, I'm also in the Bay Area, just wondering if you could tell me who did your detail and coatings? I'm always impressed any time I see one of your SXT photos floating around in the forum.
Was a forum sponsoring vendor here for a while. I'll send you a PM.

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Average shop price is arund 400-600 dollars but can go higher depending on how many coats you want not to mention the condition of your paint.

I bought a ceramic kit online and did it myself. Pretty much took the whole day as I cleaned, clayed, polished, then applied the ceramic.

Can't really see a difference in shine as I take good care of my car but what I did notice was that bird crap, bugs and dirt don't stick the car very well. A nice power hose wash and pretty much everything comes off.
$400-600 I would have it done tomorrow. I got a price of $1200 for the mid grade plan (5 year) I was willing to go to $900. My main concern is the water spots after I wash it. My car is in the garage and only a weekend driver. If anyone knows of someplace near central Florida $500/$900 please let me know.
 

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As far as preventing water spots - no. Dried hard water will leave a spot on whatever it dries on. Ceramic coatings do not prevent this and the minerals can still dry on and require spot remover to get off....
 

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OP: Read this:
The Benefits of a Paint Coating

Then read this:
The Truth Behind Wild Coating Claims

With this research, you'll now be able to focus on finding the best installer. As others have said above, a lot of the true benefit comes from the skill of the person doing your paint correction and installing the product (including yourself, if you're a DIY type).

Personally, I haven't gone the coating route for two reasons: (1) I love to learn new things and my current learning project, the art of paint correction, wouldn't exist or be possible if I had my car coated, and (2) for the price they charge in my area for a quality detailing and coating, I can feed my other addiction of putting go-fast stuff on my car...and TBH, my car's finish hasn't suffered.

 

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$400-$600, no. $1200 you're getting there, lol. Mind I had the wheels and calipers coated too, and Dlux on all the plastics, but then the Bay Area ain't cheap!

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They said 600 low end up to 800 depending on prep paint correction. . And 175 for complete detail.
Don't know what part of the country (or Canada) you're from, but those prices seem awfully low. A $200 delta between low end and high end of ceramic application depending on prep paint correction basically means they're saying, sight unseen, that they'd do a complete paint correction for, max, $200. Maybe a one-step polish, which will do just what the name implies, "polish" whatever is on your paint. It might remove some of the lighter marrings or holograms, but won't eliminate swirls or deeper marrings.

As with the links I provided earlier, you need to fully understand exactly what you're getting for they money they're quoting. Don't assume that when they use the words "paint correction" that you're actually getting paint correction; make them explain it. To some detailers, "paint correction" simply means a light buffing then applying a glaze or colored wax to hide whatever the buffing didn't remove (and buffing rarely removes anything). I'm not saying they're being dishonest (but some can be)...simply that the average car owner doesn't care about defect free paint; they just want their car nice and shiny, and detailers have to price their work accordingly, yet still sound professional.

A well maintained paint like A Guy's takes two things: Time and/or Money. If you have the money, but not the time, then coatings are for you...please just research it (like asking questions here) and be a well-informed consumer.

If you have the time, but not the money (or don't want to spend that kind of money on paint protection) then detailing your own car is easy to learn and can be achieved with an expenditure of maybe $200 tops for the base equipment and supplies....that's the route I went. I had four kids in college when I got my Challenger; wasn't going to spend a lot of money when I could do it myself (I love learning to do new things), and I find detailing and doing paint correction on my car is therapeutic for me (did I mention I have four kids in college?)

With Pitch Black paint, if you want it looking as great as it can, you either have to commit the time, or the money.

 

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Header orange paint.

I did a 3 day wash,clay, cut, polish, wax by myself last year. When i went to snap some pictures after you couldnt even tell what color the car was because the surface was so shiny it was like looking in a mirror..

This year i did a one day wash,clay, polish, C-quartz uk ceramic coat. (1 coat only, with the refresh (water-repellent applied after))
It was tiring. Wish id split it up into 2 days and done a second coat of the C-quartz.

The orange was much deeper after the c-quartz. But not as shiny as when i had done the cut polish the year before.

But it does work, sorta.. Bird shat on the car the following day, right on the roof by the driver side window. Instead of leaving a nice fat turd on the roof. It splattered like a water balloon, all over the windshield, the hood, the driver side door and window. Nice long steaks of shat everywhere. Woot! Hydrophobia!!

But when i went home to wash it, I literally just hosed it down with water, all the shit and pollen came right off. Drove around the block for 5 mins to air dry. Looked as good as new.
 

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PaVa's car speaks to my statement about how members have achieved great results and longevity with paint correction, prep, and wax/sealants. His car looks better than mine if for no other reason than he did it himself. I've had to maintain mine, but that means careful washing, I have applied Reload once, and plan to use Essence Plus soon to "cleanse" the surface and add more gloss. I'll follow that up with reload at some point. But I haven't had to clay, wax, etc. And that was my main reason. I honestly didn't expect the shine from the paint correction. I even looked at the car when I dropped it off and thought, "it's so shiny, is this worth it?" The difference was amazing. Look at 2 years ago, day one, and 2 years later with 21 months on coating

http://www.challengertalk.com/forums/f118/still-love-2-year-old-651826/

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PaVa's car speaks to my statement about how members have achieved great results and longevity with paint correction, prep, and wax/sealants. His car looks better than mine if for no other reason than he did it himself. I've had to maintain mine, but that means careful washing, I have applied Reload once, and plan to use Essence Plus soon to "cleanse" the surface and add more gloss. I'll follow that up with reload at some point. But I haven't had to clay, wax, etc. And that was my main reason. I honestly didn't expect the shine from the paint correction. I even looked at the car when I dropped it off and thought, "it's so shiny, is this worth it?" The difference was amazing. Look at 2 years ago, day one, and 2 years later with 21 months on coating

http://www.challengertalk.com/forums/f118/still-love-2-year-old-651826/

A Guy
Between your thread and the "Scat Pack Porn" thread, not sure which one has the worse out-of-context meaning.

 
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