No doubt about it, the higher octane tunes make these cars more fun to drive. But if you have the disposable income available, I highly recommend getting a TranZformer trans cntrl module to compliment the tuner.I got the diablo intune installed last weekend after 2 hours worth of back an forth from car to computer back to car a couple times, It was a headache but got it done, then this past evening, I put in 91 and tuned diablo to the 91 settings and HELLO 3.6! sure seemed like dodge detuned the run parameters. Looking to do another dyno day this spring to measure the difference with real #'s, my Butt dyno I can semi trust and added a happy 30 more HP, but the shop dyno will give the real #'s
It's not too bad, once you filter out all the unnecessary PIDs. Once the datalogs are saved on the tuner, unplug it from car and plug it into your PC or laptop. Then copy (or cut) the saved log files from the tuner onto your computer.I've done an idle recording, a parked throttle goose, a freeway WOT Merge, and a freeway cruise. Now to figure out the results.
The transformer will make a 2nd gear scratch in our little v6? If this is true I have to get one,2nd gear scratch is always fun to hear.No doubt about it, the higher octane tunes make these cars more fun to drive. But if you have the disposable income available, I highly recommend getting a TranZformer trans cntrl module to compliment the tuner.
It won't add any HP per se, but when u start getting 2nd gear scratch, you'll need surgery to remove the perma-grin plastered on your face. And that's worth it's weight in gold IMHO.
As luck would have it, a trip into the wilds of central Texas this weekend put me at the mercy of a small town's local gas stations with respects to gasoline, and victory is far from certain!It's not too bad, once you filter out all the unnecessary PIDs. Once the datalogs are saved on the tuner, unplug it from car and plug it into your PC or laptop. Then copy (or cut) the saved log files from the tuner onto your computer.
You will need the DataViewer software from DiabloSport's website to view the datalogs, so make sure it's installed and you can open it up w/out problem. Once that's good to go, use it to open up your datalogs you've downloaded from the tuner.
When they first open, there won't be much displayed. You can pick a dashboard that has predefined PIDs to graph, or just select the ones you want yourself. Either way, make sure the SHORT TERM KNOCK RETARD, LONG TERM KNOCK RETARD, one of the THROTTLE PIDs, and one of the RPM PIDs are displayed at the very least.
Then just use the software to scan the log looking for any values above 0 on either of the KRs. If you see some spikes anywhere and they occur at WOT (throttle is 121%), that falls under the category of something "fixable" like I described in last post (prob fixable, should be fixable, but sometimes it ain't).
If you see any KR occurring at non-WOT, like just cruising at steady RPMs, that falls under a different category - not something you can fix by adjusting WOT Fuel param, but should DEFINITELY be addressed sooner rather than later.
Anyway, that's a quick run-down to get you started playing with it, it's not too hard to figure out, I promise. I can post up some screen shots of my datalogs showing examples of what I am talking about if you want me to, but I can't do it until later when I get back home. Just let me know.
Perhaps I should have chosen a different phrase to use instead of "2nd gear scratch." What most people think of when they hear that phrase (including me, now that I think about it) is not exactly what you will get by installing a TZM on one of these cars.The transformer will make a 2nd gear scratch in our little v6? If this is true I have to get one,2nd gear scratch is always fun to hear.
Just so you don't think I'm trying to blow smoke up your arse, I offer the following screen shot of a datalog I recorded earlier today:Perhaps I should have chosen a different phrase to use instead of "2nd gear scratch." What most people think of when they hear that phrase (including me, now that I think about it) is not exactly what you will get by installing a TZM on one of these cars.
It used to be that when someone said they could get some scratch shifting into 2nd gear, that usually meant they had had their 3 speed auto trans rebuilt and/or a shift kit installed, resulting in an audible "chirp" at shift.
And I'm sure today's high HP/TQ cars, like the RTs and SRTs, can still achieve this effect (with a modified tune to reduce or cancel out the torque management), but I haven't driven any of them and so cannot speak to that with any authority.
So let me try to clarity my earlier post on this subject so I am not making it sound like we can suddenly have the experience of driving and SRT with just the addition of a little black box tied into the car's wiring harness.
If you install the TZM into your car, you will NOT suddenly be able to chirp the tires at will just by giving it some gas and shifting from 1st to 2nd. That would require an abundance of torque, which we all know is in short supply with the 3.6L. Hell, factor in the 2.65 rear-ends most of us are saddled with, and we’d be lucky if we could pull a sick whore off a toilet.
However, if your tires aren’t too sticky, your road isn’t too rough, and the rest of your mods are all working together at peak performance, you can easily get a back tire to lose traction at WOT shift. Throw in something like a well-worn asphalt road or shifting in the middle of a left turn, and you can lose enough traction during WOT shift that the ESP/BAS will kick in and ruin all the fun.
I have spent a lot of money over the last couple of years buying a lot of different things to upgrade my car’s looks, performance, sound, fun-ability to drive, etc., and the TZM has been my favorite mod out of all of them.
Just so you don't think I'm trying to blow smoke up your arse, I offer the following screen shot of a datalog I recorded earlier today:
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At first glance that log appears to show me going from 7mph to 52mph in less than 2 seconds, I assure you my car is not that quick. That is due to wheel spin at the back tires.
But if you look real close, you can see the MPH continue to increase for another 0.7 seconds after the gear shift, and that's what I was referring to in my last post. There was no audible "chirp" going from 1st to 2nd, but when I shifted the gear, the tires continued their march toward eventual death for almost a second longer.
Now the Hemi gents may roll their eyes at such meager accomplishments, but let's face facts here: with the 3.6L+2.65 combo, we have to get our thrills where we can and enjoy them while they last.
Like I said, the TZM is my favorite mod so far, and this sort of thing is a big part of the reason why. Some may consider me a no-good beatnik hooligan for running around peeling scratch and such, but I don't give nary a fuk, it's my car, I'll have fun with it any way I choose!
Yeah, that part of the TZM upgrade tends to get lost in all the fun of the other stuff the TZM offers. But on the rare occasion I turn it off and have to endure the normal gear shifts, the wait is tortuously long for it go from one gear to the other.