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Which do y’all prefer? I’m tuning a 2017 Challenger R/T 5.7, so I’ll need the cracked ECM, too. I have zero tuning experience, so I’ll be using canned tunes for now. Eventually, I’ll probably be adding a cam and long tubes, so email tuning or something would be important.

Who has more/better features? Are they pretty similar?
 

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Can you elaborate on why? I like to know the pros and cons of products before I make a purchasing decision.
 

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What I found was that I quickly outgrew the capabilities of the diablo sport trinity (only lets you play with WOT settings and you can't set when WOT hits). I love the fact that you can standalone log with the trinity but HP tuners has way, way, way more tuning capability...it is night and day between the two.

Of the two, HP tuners has a much steeper learning curve but the more I read and used it the more comfortable I become using it.

BTW HP tuners just came out with a new interface which supports bluetooth (still no standalone logging though). Also the credit system on the new interface is universal so it can be used on Fo...Fo...Fords and cccccchhhevys (whew that was tough to type). Download their trial software and open some of the example tunes and you will see all the parameters you can adjust...it literally is mind blowing.
 

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I’m still on the learning curve of Hp tuners after using diablo for years. It is definitely a steeper learning curve , but there are way more parameters if you want to get into tuning yourself. Like said above , the more you use it and read , the more comfortable you become. I like being able to make and feel my own adjustments.
They both need an unlocked pcm, not sure where he was going with that.


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Which do y’all prefer? I’m tuning a 2017 Challenger R/T 5.7, so I’ll need the cracked ECM, too. I have zero tuning experience, so I’ll be using canned tunes for now. Eventually, I’ll probably be adding a cam and long tubes, so email tuning or something would be important.

Who has more/better features? Are they pretty similar?
Hello, glad to see you are considering our product. If you have any questions feel free to send us a message. We also have a forum that has a lot of good information and can be super helpful to new tuners that are just getting started.
 

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Hello, glad to see you are considering our product. If you have any questions feel free to send us a message. We also have a forum that has a lot of good information and can be super helpful to new tuners that are just getting started.
Do you guys offer a PCM cross ship as Diablo does?
 

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Do you guys offer a PCM cross ship as Diablo does?
I'm not really sure what you mean by cross ship? We do offer a pcm modification service that requires the pcm to be sent into us to be unlocked.
Diablosport keeps modifies PCMs in stock. They will send you one for a modest fee, and as long as you send your original back to them in a timely manner, you won’t incur a core charge.
 

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Diablosport keeps modifies PCMs in stock. They will send you one for a modest fee, and as long as you send your original back to them in a timely manner, you won’t incur a core charge.
At this time we are just modding pcm's that get sent in to us and then send them back.
 

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But you can send a spare PCM from another car in for modification, correct?
Yes that is correct, it can be a spare PCM from another car. When you send in a pcm for unlocking we also request a stock read from your car so after modification that is what is loaded onto the unlocked pcm.
 

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Clicking yes/no in a little menu (Diablo canned tune) vs making your own adjustmens (Hptuners) is comparing Apple vs Oranges, and in this case, Hptuners is a lot more flexible, and will allow you to dial things out regardless of mods. There is really no comparison, lets put this way for easy reading, one is kiddy toy, the other a man tool, honestly. Even if you're going email tune route, Hptuners will allow you to see the changes in the tune, assuming your tuner doesn't tuner lock the calibration (some do, it's up to you to find ahead of time if your tuner is one of those)
the biggest con of Hptuners is the time it takes for you to understand what needs to change and why, there is a lot to read, lot to digest, and a lot to learn, learning requires self investigation and also help from the tuning community, which is one of the biggest assest for HPtuners.

If you thought you wanted a simple way to say you're tuned, you're not going to find that in the Hptuner user interface, Hptuners is a pro tuning suite, so it's assumed you know what you're doing, if you want the equivalent to that in Diablo, you need to buy Diablo CMR, which is also not a yes/no handheld thingy. So there is niche for each application. if you wanted to slap a CAI and say you're tuned, then perhaps the handheld might suite your needs.

Hope it helps.
 
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