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that doesn't surprise me, seems like the 6sp manual cars have stuff already the Auto STP cars have to pay extra for. and I never have gotten a firm answer on the differences between the "Track Pack" and the "Super Track Pack" .. can you order the STP on a manual trans car? I assume it would just make it an 1" or so lower, maybe different brake pads and possibly different sway bars? for $595?? Dodge has boxed themselves into a "description corner" I think..
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I have the STP on my manual trans Blacktop.
It's got different springs and shocks to lower and stiffen the ride, 20" z-rated wheels/tires, bigger brakes, and prob a couple other things that slip my mind at the moment...
 

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I have the STP on my manual trans Blacktop.
It's got different springs and shocks to lower and stiffen the ride, 20" z-rated wheels/tires, bigger brakes, and prob a couple other things that slip my mind at the moment...
STP brakes aren't any bigger than the standard R/T brakes.

Here are the SXT brakes...

BRAKES
Touring Brake Package Standard on Challenger SXT and SXT Plus
Front
Rotor size and type 12.6 x 1.1 (320 x 28) vented
Caliper size and type 2.36 (60) single-piston sliding with aluminum housing
Swept area 259 sq. in. (1,671 sq. cm)
Rear
Rotor size and type 12.6 x 0.4 (320 x 10) solid
Caliper size and type 1.65 (42) single-piston sliding with aluminum housing
Swept area 264 sq. in. (1,703 sq. cm)
And the R/T brakes...

Performance Brake Package Standard on Challenger Rallye Redline, R/T, R/T Plus and R/T Classic; Optional
on Challenger SXT Plus (with Super Sport Group)
Front
Rotor size and type 13.6 x 1.26 (345 x 28) vented
Caliper size and type 1.65 (42) dual-piston sliding with aluminum housing
Swept area 249 sq. in. (1,606 sq. cm)
Rear
Rotor size and type 12.6 x 0.87 (320 x 22) vented
Caliper size and type 1.65 (42) single-piston sliding with aluminum housing
Swept area 264 sq. in. (1,703 sq. cm)
Back to what I had said in a previous post, all R/Ts use the same calipers (except for the right rear standard R/T caliper, for some reason. That's a weird one). The other parts, though, are (for 2011)...

1 CALIPER ASSEMBLY, Disc Brake,
Front
05142557AB 1 D 22 [BR3], Left
05142556AB 1 D 22 [BR3], Right

18 CALIPER ASSEMBLY, Disc Brake,
Front
05137670AB 1 D 22 [BR5] Or [BR6], Right
05137671AB 1 D 22 [BR5] Or [BR6], Left

2 CALIPER ASSEMBLY, Disc Brake,
Rear
05142564AB 1 D 22 [BR5], Right
05142562AB 1 D 22 [BR3], Right
05142565AB 1 D 22 [BR5], Left
-------------- 1 D 22 [BR6], Left
-------------- 1 D 22 [BR6], Right
05142563AB 1 D 22 [BR3], Left

7 ROTOR, Brake, Front
04779196AE 1 D 22 [BR3]
04779197AE 1 D 22 [BR5]
05154118AB 1 D 22 [BR6]

8 ROTOR, Brake, Rear
04779208AD 2 D 22 [BR3]
04779209AE 2 D 22 [BR5] Or [BR6]

12 PAD KIT, Front Disc Brake,
Contains Pads and Slippers
05174001AB 1 D 22 [BR3]
05142558AB 1 D 22 [BR5]

17 05142559AB 1 D 22 PAD KIT, Front Disc Brake,
Contains Pads and Slippers, [BR6]

1 PAD KIT, Rear Disc Brake
05142560AB 1 D 22 [BR3]
VCLX2560AA Make It Ceramic Rear Brake Kit
VRLX2560AA Make It New Brake Kits

1 D 22 [BR5]
VCLX2560AA Make It Ceramic Rear Brake Kit
VRLX2560AA Make It New Brake Kits

05142566AB 1 D 22 [BR6]
BR3 = SE/SXT
BR5 = R/T standard "perf" brakes
BR6 = R/T "HD" brakes

Hope this settles what's different about the R/T brakes; Front rotors and pads, rear pads.
 

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So if you read your own post, there are standard R/T 'perf' brakes, then there are R/T 'HD' brakes...BR5 and BR6.

SO, a standard R/T comes with BR5, STP cars come with BR6.

And they DO use different pads and rotors, as posted by Yahooligans list above.
As I've said from the start.
 

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So if you read your own post, there are standard R/T 'perf' brakes, then there are R/T 'HD' brakes...BR5 and BR6.

SO, a standard R/T comes with BR5, STP cars come with BR6.

And they DO use different pads and rotors, as posted by Yahooligans list above.
As I've said from the start.
You claimed STP had bigger brakes, they don't. You claimed the upgraded R/T brakes were dual piston and the standard were single, they're not. That's what I was clearing up. The HD rotors are likely thicker but they are not larger diameter (aka bigger). :) Hope that clears up the confusion.

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I will concede that the calipers are the same.
But the rotors and pads are not.
Your claim was they are the same brakes between standard R/T and STP, then you posted proof they are not.
I'll split the difference...we were both 1/2 right ;)
 

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I will concede that the calipers are the same.
But the rotors and pads are not.
Your claim was they are the same brakes between standard R/T and STP, then you posted proof they are not.
I'll split the difference...we were both 1/2 right ;)
Go back and re-read, I never said they were the same brakes. I said same calipers. I've known all along that there are two different brake options for the R/T, why would I claim they were the same? ;)

Anyway, the info is here for all to see.
 

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