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I'm now doing a lot of highway speed mountain driving over highway 80 in the Sierra Nevadas and the stock headlights really don't cut it.

I have a '19 with factory HID's and they are just "ok", nothing special, nothing to write home about. The 100W LED's in my '10 R/T were far better.

Does anyone know if there are "euro spec" headlights for our cars?
If not, any upgrades to 55W bulbs and ballasts?

The high beams are a joke - they have decent range, but they light up trees 50' high at less than 100 yards - typical crappy US spec headlights.

While I'm on the subject, has anyone found (close to) direct replacement driving lights for the total joke fog lamps? Driving light meaning pencil beams that have a good range for night driving.
 

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I would love to have the HIDs that came with your car, I’m stuck with old school halogens on both low and high beam.

The low beams (and corresponding poorly designed headlight housing) are so bad I’ve resorted to modifying 65w H9 high beam halogen bulbs to fit my low beam plugs.

They are better than the 55w H11 bulbs in these housings, but still fall short of what a comparable HID setup could do.
 
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you can get LED bulbs to replace the fog lights - the '15+ style are a narrow "slit" beam pattern.

Here's an example of LED fog lights I installed on a '16 model - note the beam pattern. They're brighter than the OEM HIDs
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LED technology will have brighter lighting options - depending on the state you reside in, some of these may not be deemed road legal.

I have 20K lumen LED retrofit lamps in my '01 Benz - it has the diffuser style lenses, so the beam doesn't blind oncoming drivers - they're brighter than my OEM HIDs in my '16 Challenger
 

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I would love to have the HIDs that came with your car, I’m stuck with old school halogens on both low and high beam.

The low beams (and corresponding poorly designed headlight housing) are so bad I’ve resorted to modifying 65w H9 high beam halogen bulbs to fit my low beam plugs.

They are better than the 55w H11 bulbs in these housings, but still fall short of what a comparable HID setup could do.
I used LED bulbs from www.jdmastar.com in my 2010 (no HID/s/projectors) and it was a HUGE difference. They were far better than these factory HID's.
 

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you can get LED bulbs to replace the fog lights - the '15+ style are a narrow "slit" beam pattern.

Here's an example of LED fog lights I installed on a '16 model - note the beam pattern. They're brighter than the OEM HIDs View attachment 999833
I tried that already - I want DRIVING lights that have range, not fog lights that are barely noticeable. I'm not talking about color or brightness, but how far out they project.
 

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have you tried out the Osram D3S Night Breaker Laser bulb?
claimed to be 200% brighter over what stock bulb output would be and plug and play.

Otherwise there's LED, but I'm not familiar with trying to go from OEM HID wiring to an LED setup

There's no export version of Challenger headlights, since the US FMVSS-108 standards are more 'conservative' than what the overseas countries standards are for headlights.
 

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have you tried out the Osram D3S Night Breaker Laser bulb?
claimed to be 200% brighter over what stock bulb output would be and plug and play.

Otherwise there's LED, but I'm not familiar with trying to go from OEM HID wiring to an LED setup

There's no export version of Challenger headlights, since the US FMVSS-108 standards are more 'conservative' than what the overseas countries standards are for headlights.
I had not seen those, but they look like a good solution for the regular headlights. Thanks for that info.

I'd still like to have high beams that stress range over height and width of the beam, but if those Osrams work well for the low beams I might not need the high beams much.
 

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the Challenger uses a bi-Xenon setup (single bulb) - an electro-mechanical "shutter" moves up for the high beam operation which eliminates the upper beam cut off for low beam operation.
 
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have you tried out the Osram D3S Night Breaker Laser bulb?
claimed to be 200% brighter over what stock bulb output would be and plug and play.

Otherwise there's LED, but I'm not familiar with trying to go from OEM HID wiring to an LED setup

There's no export version of Challenger headlights, since the US FMVSS-108 standards are more 'conservative' than what the overseas countries standards are for headlights.
Order placed, thanks Hal!
 

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Those are said to be the brightest HID, 3500LM (some list 3200LM), but NOT DOT legal, just FYI. Generally $210 most places


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Those are said to be the brightest HID, 3500LM (some list 3200LM), but NOT DOT legal, just FYI. Generally $210 most places


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Screw DOT.
 

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Those are said to be the brightest HID, 3500LM (some list 3200LM), but NOT DOT legal, just FYI. Generally $210 most places


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and yet the truck and Jeep people have those LED bars on the front (and illuminated) and those are off-road use only.

Yet they drive around with those damn things on while on roads and highway
 

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I've been using euro spec lights on my cars for a couple of decades. They are FAR better than DOT certified crap we have here. DOT can pound sand. I bet 75% of night time accidents here would be avoided if people could just see what's ahead of them.
 

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How can I tell what type of headlights came on my car? I'm pretty sure from the color and brightness they are halogen. Looking to go into an LED headlight but saw talk that they flicker on our cars or you need special connections. If anybody has simple plug and play LED headlights to replace the factory ones let me know.
 

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the HIDs require the Driver Convenience Grp - the quick tell tale is if your side view mirrors have the small triangle blind-spot warning lights. If you don't have that, no HIDs on your vehicle

HIDs are part of that package
 

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I had great luck upgrading my hologens to the OneX pure white kit with ballasts from diode dynamics. Not sure the route you have to go to change the factory HIDS. I would try and adjust the beams first and foremost
 

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Sadly, I tried the Osram's and they are DIMMER than the factory bulbs. My fogs are now brighter than my headlights. I also had to keep using my high beams because they had less range. I've asked for a return. Not gonna eat $200 for sucky bulbs.
 

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Bummer, sorry about that :(

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