Common sense says sold orders should take priority over dealer stock but apparently Dodge doesn't see it that way....same thing happened with the 2014 Shaker.
Fellow Canadian's Who Ordered a Hellcat
I was just wondering if anyone has an update on the status of their HC who got a VON when ordered? I ordered July 23 when my dealer call and said he was able to place an order. I called my dealer on Friday and he said no change in status still in B something status. Dealer has been family owned for over 55 years and has a Five Star Status (highest quality service rating awarded by Chrysler Canada), got an email from area rep and said they were going to build 3 HC per month for western Canada with first ones going to Vancouver and with the amount of orders for HC it might take 3 years to get one.I talked to the dealer in Ontario where I bought my Yellow Jacket and said they would get one HC but it would be about a month before they could option it, and he said they would build 50 HC for Ontario. If anyone would like to add to this, true or false, I would appreciate it.
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Common sense says sold orders should take priority over dealer stock but apparently Dodge doesn't see it that way....same thing happened with the 2014 Shaker.
Yes - and Dodge indicated that is what they were going to do with the Hellcat. No dealer allocation - just building & shipping customer "sold" orders.
Yet - once again, it appears that the Mega-Dealers with multiple franchises are able to push the suits around at Dodge.
And - guys like me, dealing with a long term family owned dealership - from which I have bought 60 Chrysler vehicles over the last 23 years (I run a local service business) and have put in a sold order back 1 day after the order banks opened in July - have no idea when or whether I will get my Hellcat.
To add insult to injury, I have raced a 300C SRT8 with numerous wins on road courses for several years now. Come on, Dodge - imagine the props you guys will get when I take a stock Hellcat out on the track and spank a few of the 'really fast guys'?
Message to Tim Kuniskis. - Lets get these orders moving out to the gearhead community with some sense of fairness & dignity!
( Meanwhile, NR starts to assemble a 'build sheet' for a C7 'vette . . .)
Hey Pat. I feel your pain and as you know I had a VIN for my car way back in 2005 only to be snatched from me. From what I gather it was one of those mega dealers in the US too. There was some thought a celebrity got my VIN, even Jay Leno's name came up, but I was never able to find out the complete story. To my good fortune someone at the very top of Chrysler in a special meeting stole a US destined VIN and that's how I got my car.Yes - and Dodge indicated that is what they were going to do with the Hellcat. No dealer allocation - just building & shipping customer "sold" orders.
Yet - once again, it appears that the Mega-Dealers with multiple franchises are able to push the suits around at Dodge.
And - guys like me, dealing with a long term family owned dealership - from which I have bought 60 Chrysler vehicles over the last 23 years (I run a local service business) and have put in a sold order back 1 day after the order banks opened in July - have no idea when or whether I will get my Hellcat.
To add insult to injury, I have raced a 300C SRT8 with numerous wins on road courses for several years now. Come on, Dodge - imagine the props you guys will get when I take a stock Hellcat out on the track and spank a few of the 'really fast guys'?
Message to Tim Kuniskis. - Lets get these orders moving out to the gearhead community with some sense of fairness & dignity!
( Meanwhile, NR starts to assemble a 'build sheet' for a C7 'vette . . .)
Now you need to find out if your dealer has any friends with influence up the corporate ladder. Good luck, but only old men drive C7's BTW...haha.
Bernie
Hey Pat. I feel your pain and as you know I had a VIN for my car way back in 2005 only to be snatched from me. From what I gather it was one of those mega dealers in the US too. There was some thought a celebrity got my VIN, even Jay Leno's name came up, but I was never able to find out the complete story. To my good fortune someone at the very top of Chrysler in a special meeting stole a US destined VIN and that's how I got my car.
Now you need to find out if your dealer has any friends with influence up the corporate ladder. Good luck, but only old men drive C7's BTW...haha.
Bernie
Thanks Bernie! BTW - I AM an old man . . . >
I know...haha.:guiness:Thanks Bernie! BTW - I AM an old man . . . >
Bernie
One day Dodge will figure out their core audience isn't the occasional person that splashes money at a mega-dealership, but the enthusiasts like us that hawk their cars, show off their cars, and speak positively and knowledgeable about their cars. The enthusiasts that are always waiting patiently for the latest and greatest in the pipeline, and usually end up getting shafted because we're not going to throw money at something to be "first". The enthusiasts who end up being Dodge / Chrysler "for life", and not a passing fling or momentary customer.
One day. It's a shame that's not today.
One day. It's a shame that's not today.
Yes, you'll get one.. but it will not be this year, and even next year is a toss up.So what your saying is even if someone has a sold order with a small dealer in SK with no allocation they will eventually get their hellcat? My sold order was entered and I had a VON within 2 hours after the order banks opened on July 23 and as of today nothing has changed. I don't care when I get a car I just want to know IF I'm getting one. Still in BA status from day one
Again, if anyone looks at the way the Jeep SRT for 2014 was handled, same thing. Everyone was told impossible to get. These were backordered, people were waiting for 6-12 months - now they're all over. They ironed out the kinks, they got them flowing. Allocation doesn't matter at this point, want a Jeep SRT? Order one.
Same will be with Hellcat but again, not initially. I know, that part sucks.
Just to clarify, by next year you are talking 2015 correct? As for the Jeep SRT, yes same type of deal, we ordered 2014's and waited a while for them to come in but they did come in as 2014's. 2014 was an extended model year but they delivered there sold orders.Yes, you'll get one.. but it will not be this year, and even next year is a toss up.
Again, if anyone looks at the way the Jeep SRT for 2014 was handled, same thing. Everyone was told impossible to get. These were backordered, people were waiting for 6-12 months - now they're all over. They ironed out the kinks, they got them flowing. Allocation doesn't matter at this point, want a Jeep SRT? Order one.
Same will be with Hellcat but again, not initially. I know, that part sucks.
The 2014 Jeep SRT was available as early as March/April 2013, and the exact Jeep is still being sold right now.. 1.5 years later. It was the refresh so yes, extended year.
The 15's are on the way granted, but same model/engine etc. For the Jeep SRT it took about 8-10 months or so to catch up and start flowing properly. This was after the initial orders were placed.
If you place an order in Canada for a HC right now, it will arrive but you might wait close to a year to get it. Since it's Oct 2014 and these are 2015 models... this time next year, they will be 2016 models. The orders would be filled in priority of course, allocations first, then ordered units once allocations are filled and cars are sitting on lots, even if for a short while where the principal isn't ordering more.
Smaller city dealerships are usually owned by larger groups with buying power. Example, I know of a dealership in small town Sask, Knight.. they are owned by a large group, and they very much have ability to order, not to mention that they are also a auth. Viper dealership.
Waiting sucks, we all want this beast *NOW* but for me.. Winter is here shortly.. no way I'd sandbag this car, I'll wait and even though the supply will be tight in early to mid 2015... it will loosen up, just as every other SRT product has in the past on initial launch. Right now the dealers that are moving high number of challengers/chargers get priority over those that don't, so that puts most dealerships in Alta and Sak at a disadvantage (truck provinces).
I remember dealerships not being able to order the Jeep SRT, they'd tell you to your face, sorry, you won't get it. Not even a year later, they have 2 and 3 sitting on lot with 2 more inbound on carriers. Where I am now in BC, there are dealerships here with two and three on lot, but that's because they upgraded the interior to Sepia which adds price and many don't like it in person.
Hellcats won't arrive this year for 99%, true.. and next year.. slow, but by this time next year, anyone that has ordered, unless you ordered tenth in line at a small dealership, you should have your car.
They are coming.
The 15's are on the way granted, but same model/engine etc. For the Jeep SRT it took about 8-10 months or so to catch up and start flowing properly. This was after the initial orders were placed.
If you place an order in Canada for a HC right now, it will arrive but you might wait close to a year to get it. Since it's Oct 2014 and these are 2015 models... this time next year, they will be 2016 models. The orders would be filled in priority of course, allocations first, then ordered units once allocations are filled and cars are sitting on lots, even if for a short while where the principal isn't ordering more.
Smaller city dealerships are usually owned by larger groups with buying power. Example, I know of a dealership in small town Sask, Knight.. they are owned by a large group, and they very much have ability to order, not to mention that they are also a auth. Viper dealership.
Waiting sucks, we all want this beast *NOW* but for me.. Winter is here shortly.. no way I'd sandbag this car, I'll wait and even though the supply will be tight in early to mid 2015... it will loosen up, just as every other SRT product has in the past on initial launch. Right now the dealers that are moving high number of challengers/chargers get priority over those that don't, so that puts most dealerships in Alta and Sak at a disadvantage (truck provinces).
I remember dealerships not being able to order the Jeep SRT, they'd tell you to your face, sorry, you won't get it. Not even a year later, they have 2 and 3 sitting on lot with 2 more inbound on carriers. Where I am now in BC, there are dealerships here with two and three on lot, but that's because they upgraded the interior to Sepia which adds price and many don't like it in person.
Hellcats won't arrive this year for 99%, true.. and next year.. slow, but by this time next year, anyone that has ordered, unless you ordered tenth in line at a small dealership, you should have your car.
They are coming.
All that you say is borne out by past experience - not just with Chrysler, but across the auto industry - in general. I say this as I once was a General Manager of a new car dealership.
None of this is any comfort to me, at this point. If, I am going to race an HC next season, I need the car soon. We need to do the suspension set up, find out weaknesses in cooling, figure out brake pads, etc. And we need to test the car.
It was my plan to do that testing in South Florida, later this winter.
If we cannot get the car in time to do all of this, then we have to seriously consider other alternatives.
I truly believe that getting a Hellcat to me soon will also be in the best interests of Dodge. After all, we do have a damn good 'track' record:
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None of this is any comfort to me, at this point. If, I am going to race an HC next season, I need the car soon. We need to do the suspension set up, find out weaknesses in cooling, figure out brake pads, etc. And we need to test the car.
It was my plan to do that testing in South Florida, later this winter.
If we cannot get the car in time to do all of this, then we have to seriously consider other alternatives.
I truly believe that getting a Hellcat to me soon will also be in the best interests of Dodge. After all, we do have a damn good 'track' record:
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If I were you, I think you better plan on another car for next year.
I doubt you are going to see a HC anytime soon.
I ordered mine 20 minutes after the dealer was told to take orders on July 24, I was told last week it will be sometime at least late spring and up to this time next year before I see anything.
I doubt you are going to see a HC anytime soon.
I ordered mine 20 minutes after the dealer was told to take orders on July 24, I was told last week it will be sometime at least late spring and up to this time next year before I see anything.
All that you say is borne out by past experience - not just with Chrysler, but across the auto industry - in general. I say this as I once was a General Manager of a new car dealership.
None of this is any comfort to me, at this point. If, I am going to race an HC next season, I need the car soon. We need to do the suspension set up, find out weaknesses in cooling, figure out brake pads, etc. And we need to test the car.
It was my plan to do that testing in South Florida, later this winter.
If we cannot get the car in time to do all of this, then we have to seriously consider other alternatives.
I truly believe that getting a Hellcat to me soon will also be in the best interests of Dodge. After all, we do have a damn good 'track' record:
If I were you, I think you better plan on another car for next year.
I doubt you are going to see a HC anytime soon.
I ordered mine 20 minutes after the dealer was told to take orders on July 24, I was told last week it will be sometime at least late spring and up to this time next year before I see anything.
I'm gonna hang in on this order until the end of December. Hoping the suits at Dodge cut some slack to the gearhead community, not to mention guys like me who have bought numerous Mopar vehicles over the years.
In fact, I'm taking delivery of a ProMaster van for my business, on November 1st. That puts me over 60 vehicles bought from the Mothership so far.
Let's hope that the ProMaster won't be the last. Let's see how things go with my HellCat order . . .
my hellcat came off the line on 09/22/2014
I honestly don't think hanging in until Dec will get you a car, but maybe. They could care less how many Dodges you bought and that you race one, so that isn't going to help you there
I am going to give it until end of Feb, first of March and if I have nothing solid on a delivery and see no light at the end of the tunnel, I'm out.
I have already lost most of 2014 driving season as I traded my car in and I will not go another summer with a car. The only thing I would even consider is a C7, the Camaro does nothing for me nor does the Mustang. What pisses me of is I went to a local small town dealer, there was no mention of volume to get an allocation.I questioned the owner when TK made the allocation announcement and he said that was for US not Canada....wrong !I have put my name in to a couple of large multi store dealers in hopes that they may have a spare allocation, if so I'll jump ship.
Good luck !
I am going to give it until end of Feb, first of March and if I have nothing solid on a delivery and see no light at the end of the tunnel, I'm out.
I have already lost most of 2014 driving season as I traded my car in and I will not go another summer with a car. The only thing I would even consider is a C7, the Camaro does nothing for me nor does the Mustang. What pisses me of is I went to a local small town dealer, there was no mention of volume to get an allocation.I questioned the owner when TK made the allocation announcement and he said that was for US not Canada....wrong !I have put my name in to a couple of large multi store dealers in hopes that they may have a spare allocation, if so I'll jump ship.
Good luck !
I'm gonna hang in on this order until the end of December. Hoping the suits at Dodge cut some slack to the gearhead community, not to mention guys like me who have bought numerous Mopar vehicles over the years.
In fact, I'm taking delivery of a ProMaster van for my business, on November 1st. That puts me over 60 vehicles bought from the Mothership so far.
Let's hope that the ProMaster won't be the last. Let's see how things go with my HellCat order . . .
Hi!
My name is Rick and live in windsor ont.My hellcat is built and in storage, waiting for delivery.vin.709748.
Told that it is the first one in Ontario.
Pitch black,laguna sepia interior.
My name is Rick and live in windsor ont.My hellcat is built and in storage, waiting for delivery.vin.709748.
Told that it is the first one in Ontario.
Pitch black,laguna sepia interior.
My name is Rick and my HC is built and sitting in storage,waiting for delivery.
Vin.709748.i live in windsor ont.pitch black with sepia interior.told that it is the first one in ontario!
Vin.709748.i live in windsor ont.pitch black with sepia interior.told that it is the first one in ontario!
well dropped into dealer today to have a closer look at a 2015, albeit a cheap SXT, but looked at the new interior, I guess it is OK, nothing special. The Redline pearl looks nice, but I think I will stick with Torred.
Still no update on the HC...surprise!
He said he just got a load of Jeeps in that were delayed in coming for 3 months for QA issues and inspection.
So, it is not just the HC.
He says they will not release anything if it is not right.............so I will give Chrysler credit for that
Still no update on the HC...surprise!
He said he just got a load of Jeeps in that were delayed in coming for 3 months for QA issues and inspection.
So, it is not just the HC.
He says they will not release anything if it is not right.............so I will give Chrysler credit for that
I'm not upset about having to wait what I'm upset about is the poor communications. They don't even have to provide details but they could at the very least say due to unforeseen minor issues that we are in the process resolving, we will not be releasing any vehicles until it meets our quality control standards or something to that effect.
Instead what you get is gossip speculation and so forth. I'm a cynical guy and I consider the information that I received to be reliable however I don't know if where he got it from is blowing smoke or is accurate.
I would be nice if Dodge even email all the customers who have registered, have a VON or serial number and give a generic update but instead really nothing.
Love the car and give it 5 stars, Dodge communications maybe 1 star!
Instead what you get is gossip speculation and so forth. I'm a cynical guy and I consider the information that I received to be reliable however I don't know if where he got it from is blowing smoke or is accurate.
I would be nice if Dodge even email all the customers who have registered, have a VON or serial number and give a generic update but instead really nothing.
Love the car and give it 5 stars, Dodge communications maybe 1 star!
Nice to see US dealers with non sold stock in their inventory and other dealers listing their cars to go to the highest bidder on Ebay!!!!!!!!
And here we sit in Canada.............buyers with "sold orders" in the system, large deposits placed and 4 months later...nothing!!
Chrysler..... are you reading this? Your allocation needs to be modified!
And here we sit in Canada.............buyers with "sold orders" in the system, large deposits placed and 4 months later...nothing!!
Chrysler..... are you reading this? Your allocation needs to be modified!
x 2! Dodge - are you listening?
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