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It's always unfortunate to see news like that. Keep in mind that primarily means they aren't going to spend money on designing new engines. That doesn't necessarily mean their existing engines are going away, not for a while anyway. But honestly I can't even name a PSA Group engine off the top of my head. I don't know if they are anything special or not. I just hope the environmental extremist mentality that exists in the EU and their automakers stays more on that side of the pond. Including in the Stellantis merger.

With the PSA group already heavily involved in electric powertrains and having low CO2 emissions, it means that the combustion powertrains in the Stellantis group future products will come from the Fiat-Chrysler side. The combined companies will cover all of each other's bases, and the products will depend on the region. The regulations around the world are getting so ridiculous and vary so much that the only way companies can meet them and still turn a profit is to combine resources together.
 

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Good points BlackHemi. On another positive note, maybe PSA Group's electric powered vehicles can balance off FCA's internal combustion engines here in the US in terms of carbon emission credits. We're gonna need all the help we can get to keep the Hemis alive.
 

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... What does the future of Chrysler have under this leadership?...
The same as every other car out there. Like Glade air fresheners
"Plug it in, plug it in."
 
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Peugeot, Citroën and Opel French automaker Groupe PSA down on Internal Combustion Engines. What does the future of Chrysler have under this leadership?:(
They'll go along. With CA Gov. Nuisance "banning" ICE vehicles in CA by 2030 or 2035 -- governors of some othr states either doing the same or indicating they'll soon do the same -- already a number of US car makers are onboard with this.

They get carbon credits. Telse posted a profit of $331M this recent quarter that's 5 quarters in a row with a profit and that along with some other things gets Tesla added to the S&P 500 Index. But Tesla made $397M in carbon credits so it still makes more money from carbon credits -- government handouts -- than selling EVs.

Car makers never learn when you lay down down dogs you get fleas.
 

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Meh, as long as you can buy race gas at the drag strip, I can get the new Electric Hummer and a trailer and trailer my Challenger 1/4 mile at a time and a bonus, if only race gas is available I can get an awesome tune for it! But I think they will still have gas stations well beyond 2035 and if not, I am sure you will be able to order Torco still if you want to go joy riding.
 

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They'll go along. With CA Gov. Nuisance "banning" ICE vehicles in CA by 2030 or 2035 -- governors of some othr states either doing the same or indicating they'll soon do the same -- already a number of US car makers are onboard with this.

They get carbon credits. Telse posted a profit of $331M this recent quarter that's 5 quarters in a row with a profit and that along with some other things gets Tesla added to the S&P 500 Index. But Tesla made $397M in carbon credits so it still makes more money from carbon credits -- government handouts -- than selling EVs.

Car makers never learn when you lay down down dogs you get fleas.
Carbon credits are actually other automakers buying Tesla credits, which cover down on government regulations on their low mileage ICEs
 

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By 2030, internal combustion engine usage will be restricted to commercial transportation, police, military and oligarchs.
 
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Sweet Orange... Not so fast. There is way too much tax revenue tied to gasoline, automotive and other industries. Green headlines make the news, but "listen to the money talk" and the adults will prevail.

 

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Sweet Orange... Not so fast. There is way too much tax revenue tied to gasoline, automotive and other industries. Green headlines make the news, but "listen to the money talk" and the adults will prevail.

My mom was right! Money doesn't grow on trees... It comes off of a printing press. :oops:

btw... If you haven't heard it, the new AC/DC release sounds great! They've managed to recaptured the "Back In Black" studio sound. Bringing back Phil Rudd was a wise move.

 
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Sweet Orange... Not so fast. There is way too much tax revenue tied to gasoline, automotive and other industries. Green headlines make the news, but "listen to the money talk" and the adults will prevail.
Excellent point! Gasoline taxes pay for our roads. Are all electric cars going off-road?
 

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Excellent point! Gasoline taxes pay for our roads. Are all electric cars going off-road?
Here in Ohio plate are $100.00 for hybrids and $200.00 for complete electric. I understand why a lot of younger people just use car sharing apps instead of owning a car.
 

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