Having a hurst short shifter just got my entire transmission warranty voided
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On principal I would have paid an attorney and make chrysler not only repair the car I'd try and find a way to get damages for breach of contract, they didn't fulfill their obligation to repair the car.
I echo this and the other requests that the registry either be unlocked or handed over to someone else who doesn't feel conflicted about keeping it running.
Your post doesn't show any more information than your July '14 postings, despite what appears (to me at least) several logical and useful suggestions regarding the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act...have you pursued this avenue? With a lawyer?
Dealers are not all the same; even on this very site, Steve White Motors worked with another member to investigate a problem (iamwiald)...have you tried talking with them?
I feel your pain and frustration, but without knowing what you've done with the valuable information provided you here and what avenues you've exhausted, can only surmise you have either lost interest or are feeling piqued and the rest of us are now being made to bear the burden of your anger.
Personally, I've been emailing you since September asking that 2015 MY be included, with nary a response.
I hope you will reconsider your decision in regards to the registry.
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I stumbled upon this thread by pure accident. I'm in complete shock that someone else experienced the same problem that I had with my TR6060 trans in my old 2011 Camaro SS.
OP,
I went for a ride on the same merry-go-round with General Motors. To make a long and painful identical story short, I went a few steps farther than you. My story picks up where yours leaves off.
Refusing to accept the pile of completely idiotic explanations, I took my car to a very well respected hot rod shop. My reasoning was that no matter the outcome, I could always trade the car in should things go south.
Upon arriving at the shop, I was fully anticipating a test drive where I would have to prove the random 2-3 brick wall condition. You can imagine my shock when I was told that no test drive would be needed because they already know what the problem is. What?!
I was escorted into the shop and was introduced to their master mechanic. He had what appeared to be an assembly line of TR6060 transmissions. Pretty impressive to say the least.
After some basic introductions and a description of my issue, he smirked and walked me over to a bench where a TR6060 was torn apart. He explained to me that the issue is caused by a tolerance problem from the factory. Within 15 minutes of hearing the specifics and seeing a demonstration of the problem and the fix, the ONLY known solution is to rebuild the transmission with a starting price of about $3,500. This was a, "stage 1 rebuild" and they had two other more expensive rebuilds for those who needed the strength for high horsepower use.
He went on to explain that all manufactures who use the TR6060 are aware of the problem. Imagine the loss of capital if they have to issue a recall. It's just not going to happen. I have no idea how they know this or if it is even true but the story made sense to me none the less.
Needless to say, this was the final straw and my journey towards a Scat Pack 392 had begun. There was no way I was dumping $3,500 for a transmission rebuild when the car had 10k miles on it at the time.
At the end of the day, it seems that Tremec might be where the blame should be aimed, with the car manufacturer carrying half the blame given the horrible response to something that they are allegedly aware exists.
OP,
I went for a ride on the same merry-go-round with General Motors. To make a long and painful identical story short, I went a few steps farther than you. My story picks up where yours leaves off.
Refusing to accept the pile of completely idiotic explanations, I took my car to a very well respected hot rod shop. My reasoning was that no matter the outcome, I could always trade the car in should things go south.
Upon arriving at the shop, I was fully anticipating a test drive where I would have to prove the random 2-3 brick wall condition. You can imagine my shock when I was told that no test drive would be needed because they already know what the problem is. What?!
I was escorted into the shop and was introduced to their master mechanic. He had what appeared to be an assembly line of TR6060 transmissions. Pretty impressive to say the least.
After some basic introductions and a description of my issue, he smirked and walked me over to a bench where a TR6060 was torn apart. He explained to me that the issue is caused by a tolerance problem from the factory. Within 15 minutes of hearing the specifics and seeing a demonstration of the problem and the fix, the ONLY known solution is to rebuild the transmission with a starting price of about $3,500. This was a, "stage 1 rebuild" and they had two other more expensive rebuilds for those who needed the strength for high horsepower use.
He went on to explain that all manufactures who use the TR6060 are aware of the problem. Imagine the loss of capital if they have to issue a recall. It's just not going to happen. I have no idea how they know this or if it is even true but the story made sense to me none the less.
Needless to say, this was the final straw and my journey towards a Scat Pack 392 had begun. There was no way I was dumping $3,500 for a transmission rebuild when the car had 10k miles on it at the time.
At the end of the day, it seems that Tremec might be where the blame should be aimed, with the car manufacturer carrying half the blame given the horrible response to something that they are allegedly aware exists.
Tremec is ultimately financially responsible for warranty costings. FCA will bill them for every defective Tremec that they have repaired under warranty, but some dealers, zone managers, and FCA themselves may not want to deal with a known issue and deferrals are a oft used strategy.
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I REALLY disliked the TR6060 in my 2014 R/T. I installed a Barton in mine and it was only slightly better. I love my 8 speed and I would never consider another vehicle with the TR6060.
I tried several different gear oils with no luck. I hated the notch in 2nd gear and it sucked shifting it at WOT.
I tried to destroy mine before I traded it..... just so Chrysler would have to fix it.
I tried several different gear oils with no luck. I hated the notch in 2nd gear and it sucked shifting it at WOT.
I tried to destroy mine before I traded it..... just so Chrysler would have to fix it.
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Had you destroyed it, magically the dealer would have reproduced the problem and put a new trans in the car and the next owner would never know there was an issue.
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Is it possible if you blow some shifts that this 2,3 jamming problem can be caused by the driver?? Not trying to be a Jerk, just a serious question.
Reason I ask is I remember when my wife was young back in the early 80's she had a old rusted out 78 Chevy Nova with a manual tranny and hers used to jam like this.
Her Dad who was a mechanic and worked for GM said it's doing it because she was bending the "fork" by missing shifts or improperly shifting OR shifting way too hard/fast.
I remember telling her Dad that if this was the case then the metal is too "soft" and shouldn't be bending like that!!
Reason I ask is I remember when my wife was young back in the early 80's she had a old rusted out 78 Chevy Nova with a manual tranny and hers used to jam like this.
Her Dad who was a mechanic and worked for GM said it's doing it because she was bending the "fork" by missing shifts or improperly shifting OR shifting way too hard/fast.
I remember telling her Dad that if this was the case then the metal is too "soft" and shouldn't be bending like that!!
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Mopar sells their own version of the Hurst shifter, if in fact they are voiding because of the shifter and not for something else, i would fight, that in my opinion is frivolous....i fully agree that anything with the shifter would not be covered, that in itself should not affect the transmission warranty
to further that im pretty sure the Mopar 10 edition with manual transmission came with the Hurst pistol grip installed from the factory....
Luke
to further that im pretty sure the Mopar 10 edition with manual transmission came with the Hurst pistol grip installed from the factory....
Luke
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That's why I took my Barton out of my 2014 which made 2nd grind so bad at times I would wince. Stock doesn't shift well and the barton makes it worse. Of course the dealership says it is normal and to shift harder. I told them that's when it usually happens. Now my Barton sits in a box. Just not in the fighting mood on this. Luke wish your dealership was closer
Situation sucks no doubt. But I have said for years on these forums if you mod be prepared to pay the piper. And yes I dont want to hear about the magnuson-moss act, good luck with that. End of the day warranties are exspensive and manufactures make a product a certain way and should have be liable for changes made to that product. End of the day they are eventually going to start making examples of people.
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