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I recently read that as a 2012 model, Chevrolet will be releasing the Camaro ZL1 rated at a minimum of 550 horsepower.

Dodge are you listening? Do you have an answer? I hope so!

Maybe a factory supercharger.

Any thoughts out there from the forum?
 

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It would be nice to put a supercharger on it and an aluminum block to drop some of the weight gained from the supercharger. Pretty much what GM did and Ford did. It's too sweet of a car to fall behind the competition in power.
 

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isn't there a point when too much power is just stoooopid? I've been reading about it too, but I just can't fathom what I would need that power for...

My RT is plenty. Sure I would love a little more, but another 175+? I don't see the use unless you drag for a living.
 

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the ZL1 an $80,000 option on top of the $40,000 price of the car and they are only making 69 of them. for a lot less than $120,000 you could build an all aluminum supercharged 426 hemi.
 

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they will come out with a new appearance package w/ 470 hp and a dash plaque

eventually they will come out with a V10 slightly detuned and be the all time winner...probably right before 2016
 

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They will come out with a new " limited edition " color. Then the paint will be delayed and by 2014 the cars will finally be built but will sit in storage until 2016 when they will finally be delivered.....to the wrong dealers
 

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I don't think Dodge is sweating it. The Challenger is a niche player in the performance market, and let's face it the strong suit is the styling. The 392 makes 470 HP; who really needs more?

I can't imagine spending $50K for a car that you'll just take to the track. You can build a 500-600HP engine, throw it in an old Camaro and win races if that's your main drive in life, and for a whole lot less than a new Challenger.
 

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The reality remains- absolutely nothing will change even if Dodge doesn't come out with a response, altogether. :D

GM fans will still be buying Camaros.

Ford fans will still be buying Mustangs.

Dodge fans will still be buying Challengers.

...and for the special customer that simply cannot live w/o a 550+ hp beast? They will pick whatever car is their pet brand, and build it up with whatever aftermarket parts will add up to the crazy hp they seek. That kind of customer does not care if it comes off a dealer lot or out of a custom shop. They just have a dire need to blow a huge wad of cash on something in that time of their life.
 

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Yep, once a week, there is a thread just like this or has similar characteristics. So what? The 392 is a badass car and does so without a blower, which IMO, is the better way. This is assuming Chrysler does not come out with something that comes closer in the power ratings. LOYALTY drives these kind of car sales, period. I would never buy a Mustang and yet at the same time, I can without any hesitation admit that the 5.0 is a badass in its own right (or the GT500, SS, ZL-1, you get it).
 

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375+ HP is fast enough for me. I love my car as is and don't really see the need to play this HP game. Its expensive and pointless. And lets face it, most of the people that buy these super muscle cars will never use them for what they were engineered to do. They'll sit in a garage most of the time and get taken out occasionally for a leisurely cruise on a sunny Sunday afternoon.
 

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the ZL1 an $80,000 option on top of the $40,000 price of the car and they are only making 69 of them. for a lot less than $120,000 you could build an all aluminum supercharged 426 hemi.
I think you are confusing the SLP-produced ZL Camaro with the soon-to-be-produced Chevrolet ZL1.

The one we are talking about in this thread is the Chevy which will feature the LSA supercharged engine out of the Cadillac CTS-V along with the Corvette magnetic ride control system. Should be a formidible vehicle, for sure, and I have a feeling 550HP is a low-ball number. Ifugure the MSRP will fall in the $50-55K range, depending on the options.

And lets face it, most of the people that buy these super muscle cars will never use them for what they were engineered to do. They'll sit in a garage most of the time and get taken out occasionally for a leisurely cruise on a sunny Sunday afternoon.
Blasphemy! But, unfortunately, you're probably right.
 

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the ZL1 an $80,000 option on top of the $40,000 price of the car and they are only making 69 of them. for a lot less than $120,000 you could build an all aluminum supercharged 426 hemi.
The ZL1 competes with Fords GT500 and is rumored to be just over $50,000.

I don't think Dodge is sweating it. The Challenger is a niche player in the performance market, and let's face it the strong suit is the styling. The 392 makes 470 HP; who really needs more?

I can't imagine spending $50K for a car that you'll just take to the track. You can build a 500-600HP engine, throw it in an old Camaro and win races if that's your main drive in life, and for a whole lot less than a new Challenger.
Isn't a loaded SRT8 $45,000?
 

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I'm hoping Gilles is the man we all hope he is. Anybody who races vipers can't sit for long without doing something truly crazy. Besides, everybody knows the only true winner of a horsepower war is the consumer. So I say let Dodge fire the next volley.(Aluminum 426 from the 1420 concept would be nice.)
 

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The ZL1 competes with Fords GT500 and is rumored to be just over $50,000.

Isn't a loaded SRT8 $45,000?
Fully loaded (on Edmunds website) $49,398. Not including tax, tags, processing fees, etc. Granted it's MSRP, but that's close enough to $50K for me to quote it for the purposes of this thread.
 

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Dodge will do what they do best - sit on their thumb.
 

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Let dodge first respond to the 5.0 first then let them think of competing with the ZL1. They basically don't understand the competition. As many members already responded, new limited edition color and thats it! I think dodge like to be the loser when it comes to the competition.

SE vs v6 mustang vs v6 camaro ... SE LAST
R/T vs SS vs GT ... R/T LAST
SRT vs GT500 vs ZL1 ... SRT LAST
6.1 vs SS vs 5.0 ... 6.1 LAST
392 vs SS vs 5.0 ... debatable, 392 could be 1st or 2nd .. still pathetic that we are not sure 392 is better than the 5.0

So dodge are just enjoying winning the beauty pageants. and thats it!
 

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Fully loaded (on Edmunds website) $49,398. Not including tax, tags, processing fees, etc. Granted it's MSRP, but that's close enough to $50K for me to quote it for the purposes of this thread.
A fully loaded SRT8 in either IE, GWE, or Redline 3 paint options is over $50k MSRP.
 

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I'm not sure Dodge will even respond with a different version Challenger. You've got to remember that Ford and GM are doing very well right now; Chrysler is still limping along. The Mustang and Camaro sell a buttload (a buttload are also produced)...the Challenger sells 1/2 - 1/3 of what the Mustang and Camaro do...Chrylser isn't going to go out and do special editions of cars that only sell 40,000 units per year...

I would love to see a SC'ed aluminum 426 in a Challenger with a little bit of extra weight shed, but I honestly don't think it'll happen.
 

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A fully loaded SRT8 in either IE, GWE, or Redline 3 paint options is over $50k MSRP.
That was my point when he was acting like the ZL1 was so expensive and if you wanted to go fast you could do it cheaper doing a built motor in a SRT. Maybe if your a mechanic, even then I doubt it.

I give credit where credit is do and Ford and GM have given the performance fan an incredible package if someone is looking for outrageous power. To try and justify reasons for Chrysler not having a competitor is just sour grapes. The Hemi is more than capable Chrysler just needs to step up. Remember it's an OPTION. If it doesn't suit you then fantastic but there are plenty of us who would love to have a lot more factory warranted power.
 
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