Is IPOD Supposed to Work with 430 Radio?
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I believe there is an upgrade. My 730 works great with my iphone4.
(Updated July 7, 2011) A Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) has been issued addressing the connectivity of the Media Center and Uconnect Touch radios with Apple® products like the iPhone®, iPod® or iPod touch®.
Radios affected include Media Centers 130 (RES), 230 (REQ), 430 (RBZ), 430N (RHB) and Uconnect Touch radios 4.3S (RHA), 4.3S (REB), 8.4 (RE2), 8.4N (RB5) IF EQUIPPED WITH UCONNECT VOICE COMMAND WITH BLUETOOTH.
The USB service flash addresses these compatibility issues:
Radios affected include Media Centers 130 (RES), 230 (REQ), 430 (RBZ), 430N (RHB) and Uconnect Touch radios 4.3S (RHA), 4.3S (REB), 8.4 (RE2), 8.4N (RB5) IF EQUIPPED WITH UCONNECT VOICE COMMAND WITH BLUETOOTH.
The USB service flash addresses these compatibility issues:
- The message “connecting to device” is displayed on Apple iPod touch, iPod, or iPhone when connected to the vehicle USB port, but the device will not sync to the Hands Free Module (HFM) to play audio
- iPhone 4 audio will drop out and skip during a streaming audio session
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thank you!
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If I remember correctly, this was for vehicles built before April something (25th maybe?). I had this TSB performed on my '11 Grand Cherokee (which has the RHB), and it fixed the iPhone 4 USB issues. The Challenger I picked up earlier this week worked perfectly from the get-go (6/22 build date).
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Makes sense...mine was built in Jan.
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I called a dealership today to ask them about performing this fix. They said that they don't have the software yet. Where can they get the software to do the fix? Anyone know any Atlanta area dealerships that DO have the software? After 4 months I'd be REALLY happy to finally get my iPhone working right in my car.
This update (TSB # 08-036-11) has been available to all the Chrysler, Dodge & Jeep dealerships thru their "Dealer Connect system". They are just being lazy. They all got it at the same time.
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What is this "Dealer Connect System", and what should I tell my dealership so they can go get this and fix my car?
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All dealers know how to find and perform these TSBs. The TSB is very clear about how the dealer acquires the software update, and how they install it.What is this "Dealer Connect System", and what should I tell my dealership so they can go get this and fix my car?
I've attached the TSB here. Print it and take it to the dealer. It really shouldn't be necessary though. Just sounds like lazyness on the part of the dealer.
My apologies, the "Dealer Connect System" is the Chrysler website that their Techs access for diagnostics, pin point test, schematics, TSB's etc. When you plan to go to the dealer, first I would call them and ask about the TSB 08-036-11. I have had replies from several people that say when they mention it to the service personnel, they are told "it's not available". Fact is that it is available and has been since 6-29-2011. I waited till 6-30-2011 to call a couple of dealers before I posted this information on a Wrangler forum. There is another problem however, You want to ask them if they have performed this update successfully. I have several people in different states that have said they have had their vehicle in and the update was supposedly done. The Iphone / iPod would link up when they got into the car but later they had the "error occurred" message again.
A good way to test and validate if the update was performed correctly (or at all) is to go into streaming audio, the current streaming audio with an Apple product is fine "UNTILL" you press the wake button to turn on the backlighting on the display (where you can see the now playing, artist, album etc. Then the audio becomes choppy.
For those of you with non Apple devices, most of the HTC's, Samsungs, Motorola etc have a fast, choppy sound on the streaming audio.
With the HTC recent SW update to the Android 2.3.3, the phone is not dropping the blue tooth connection, ( the problem there was the way that HTC was sending the phone book data, Uconnect will try 3 times to get the data in a supported fashion. If it doesn't then Uconnect will reset its module and say to the phone "hey , lets try that again".) The best thing to have done (or do if you haven't done the update yet, is to not give permission for the pb to be downloaded when you originally paired the phone. If you have not done the update, then you can do this step by going into the phone,, delete the uconnect and go into uconnect and delete the phone, start a new pairing session and select decline when asked. This message will pop up a few more times as well as when you get into the vehicle, just ignore it and it will go away). The HTC update helped their streaming audio a bit not 100%. The uconnect update will playback the music properly.
With Samsung, they recently came out with a Android 2.2 Sw update. With their 2.1 the PB downloaded fine, however now the pb does not download. Your pb may already be downloaded to the Uconnect but if you make any changes to the contacts (add or delete) the changes won't be adjusted to the stored pb. Each time you leave the vehicle and come back, turn the key on, the pb is downloaded. This is to compare what is saved to what may be new while you were out of the vehicle. (deleted or added). The changes are then added to the stored pb file.
The real problem is that these phone companies want to be come out with the next best and fastest sw which is ok but they need to work hand in hand with the car kit companies like Uconnect, Ford SYNC, Onstar etc. They don't bother trying to validate their changes to what people have in their cars right now. Then the car kit companies have to wait for people to have problem, validate the problems, write new SW for the problems that could have been fixed by the phone company before being sent to the public. Then the fix needs to be sent out to the dealers to re flash vehicles.
A good way to test and validate if the update was performed correctly (or at all) is to go into streaming audio, the current streaming audio with an Apple product is fine "UNTILL" you press the wake button to turn on the backlighting on the display (where you can see the now playing, artist, album etc. Then the audio becomes choppy.
For those of you with non Apple devices, most of the HTC's, Samsungs, Motorola etc have a fast, choppy sound on the streaming audio.
With the HTC recent SW update to the Android 2.3.3, the phone is not dropping the blue tooth connection, ( the problem there was the way that HTC was sending the phone book data, Uconnect will try 3 times to get the data in a supported fashion. If it doesn't then Uconnect will reset its module and say to the phone "hey , lets try that again".) The best thing to have done (or do if you haven't done the update yet, is to not give permission for the pb to be downloaded when you originally paired the phone. If you have not done the update, then you can do this step by going into the phone,, delete the uconnect and go into uconnect and delete the phone, start a new pairing session and select decline when asked. This message will pop up a few more times as well as when you get into the vehicle, just ignore it and it will go away). The HTC update helped their streaming audio a bit not 100%. The uconnect update will playback the music properly.
With Samsung, they recently came out with a Android 2.2 Sw update. With their 2.1 the PB downloaded fine, however now the pb does not download. Your pb may already be downloaded to the Uconnect but if you make any changes to the contacts (add or delete) the changes won't be adjusted to the stored pb. Each time you leave the vehicle and come back, turn the key on, the pb is downloaded. This is to compare what is saved to what may be new while you were out of the vehicle. (deleted or added). The changes are then added to the stored pb file.
The real problem is that these phone companies want to be come out with the next best and fastest sw which is ok but they need to work hand in hand with the car kit companies like Uconnect, Ford SYNC, Onstar etc. They don't bother trying to validate their changes to what people have in their cars right now. Then the car kit companies have to wait for people to have problem, validate the problems, write new SW for the problems that could have been fixed by the phone company before being sent to the public. Then the fix needs to be sent out to the dealers to re flash vehicles.
What is this "Dealer Connect System", and what should I tell my dealership so they can go get this and fix my car?
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I called the local dealership there. They said they had the TSB, but didn't have the software to perform it. They told me to "check back on Friday", making it sound like they needed to receive a physical shipment. So you are saying they can download the software from the "Dealer Connect System", and don't actually need to physically receive anything?
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I have a Scion xB with integrated iPod controls in the steering wheel. I've found it to be just as easy, or even easier, to just use the AUX cable. I don't generally fiddle around with the music anyway because I have several playlists. Just start it and go.
WOW, they have the TSB but not the software???? HMM, let me see here, The TSB is on their Dealer Connect Computer system, This means that the "SOFTWARE" is there also. What they must not HAVE i: some flash drives or thumb drives what ever anyone wants to call them. I don't understand why they are having such a problem besides they are just LAZY and really can not read and understand the instructions.
I was first introduced to the phone issues a couple months back and then was also directed to the Jeep Wrangler site (the person that was able to get me to help has a Wrangler so I have been there helping). There has been people that have taken their vehicles to the dealers only to be misled about this TSB. I thought that perhaps there was something wrong with the files for the TSB. I rented a Durango yesterday (I couldn't find a Wrangler locally) and took it to the dealer for the TSB. I spoke to the Service Mgr about being able to watch the tech perform the steps because of the issues that service techs were having. The tech that performed mine was a little tech savvy and understood about downloading to a thumb drive. The update was downloaded and the thumb drive placed in the USB connector in the armrest, we spoke for about 15 minutes while the update was beeping away. When it was done, I asked him to verify the PN which would change to a new PN with the update (which it did)
In order to verify the update I would tell the service person that is helping you that you want to know what the new PN is. If it is any of the following then the update was not correctly performed:
05064635AG, 05064735AG
05064630AG, 05064740AG
However if it is any of the following PN's then it was done correctly:
68140634AA, 68140635AA
68140645AA, 68140646AA
Also, here are the steps for the TSB, directly off of Dealer Connect: (attached)
I was first introduced to the phone issues a couple months back and then was also directed to the Jeep Wrangler site (the person that was able to get me to help has a Wrangler so I have been there helping). There has been people that have taken their vehicles to the dealers only to be misled about this TSB. I thought that perhaps there was something wrong with the files for the TSB. I rented a Durango yesterday (I couldn't find a Wrangler locally) and took it to the dealer for the TSB. I spoke to the Service Mgr about being able to watch the tech perform the steps because of the issues that service techs were having. The tech that performed mine was a little tech savvy and understood about downloading to a thumb drive. The update was downloaded and the thumb drive placed in the USB connector in the armrest, we spoke for about 15 minutes while the update was beeping away. When it was done, I asked him to verify the PN which would change to a new PN with the update (which it did)
In order to verify the update I would tell the service person that is helping you that you want to know what the new PN is. If it is any of the following then the update was not correctly performed:
05064635AG, 05064735AG
05064630AG, 05064740AG
However if it is any of the following PN's then it was done correctly:
68140634AA, 68140635AA
68140645AA, 68140646AA
Also, here are the steps for the TSB, directly off of Dealer Connect: (attached)
You're a god send... thanks so much!
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The TSB gives them very clear instructions on how to get the software. They use their wiTECH diagnostic tool to get the update for the hands-free module. They download it using their wiTECH, and copy it to a USB thumb drive. They then use that USB thumb drive in the center console USB port.
The dealer isn't going to be sent any software update... they have everything they need! Is there another dealer by you that you can take it to? This one sounds completely clueless.
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Sterling Heights.
The TSB fixes compatibility issues with the newer Apple products, running iOS4 (iPhone 4, upgraded iPhone 3G and 3GS, iPod Touch, and the latest iPhone nano). Without this update, if you plug the device into the center console USB port, 9 out of 10 times it will show an error message and not read the device. It also fixes an issue with Bluetooth Streaming Audio, where the audio plays about 10 times faster than normal, and skips.
Older Apple devices worked fine without this update.
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