[PhantomSXT]

Are there any differences between the K&N 69-2544TP "Typhoon" and the K&N 63-1564 other than the "Typhoon" has a chrome metal tube and the other has black plastic tube that is flattened at the bend?

Both appear to use the same washable filter and oddly, they are priced the same, or similar, wherever I look.

Is one a newer release than the other? Is one recommended over the other for the 3.6L?

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/300803214973?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 

[Grinch_392]

Plastic = Less heat. Metal tubes hold heat.

 

[stormTrooper]

The chrome looks awesome, tho!

 

[Brosdad]

Like the above posts already state, the chrome tube is more cosmetic. The plastic tube dissipates heat a bit better which theoretically adds a tad more "cold" air. To be honest though, on our 3.6's put whichever one you like the look of best. Performance gains are not really a big deciding factor for our engine. Personally, I am still trying to source one out that has a red tube to pull the Redline theme under the hood.

 

[PhantomSXT]

Makes sense. If everything else is equal, I think I will opt for the black one.

... Personally, I am still trying to source one out that has a red tube to pull the Redline theme under the hood.

You could always pick up a spray can of Dodge Inferno or TorRed and paint one yourself.

 

[Brosdad]

Thought about that but prefer to find a powder coated one. Mostly for the durability

 

[agr2010]

CAI

I had the K&N CAI plastic intake and just recently installed the MOPAR CAI which was almost double in price and found that both work about the same, I don't notice the difference in performance, however the metal pipes with the Mopar logo looks better than the K&N plastic one I had, in my opinion it dresses up the engine bay better. Performance wise they feel the same on the 3.6L.

 

[belrix]

I struggled and debated over which CAI to go with for weeks! I love the look of the Mopar CAI (really nice), but went with the K&N 63 Series. The install was a breeze and I look the sound at WOT!!!

Here is a picture of the K&N 63 installed in my dirty SXT.

brian

 

[agr2010]

Excellent, enjoy...


Sent from AutoGuide.com Free App

 

[RogerNapalm]

I struggled and debated over which CAI to go with for weeks! I love the look of the Mopar CAI (really nice), but went with the K&N 63 Series. The install was a breeze and I look the sound at WOT!!!

Here is a picture of the K&N 63 installed in my dirty SXT.

brian

Nice. I did the exact same thing. The performance and sound improvements were quite noticeable. Getting a little better gas mileage too. :icon_smile:

 

[samlab]

Don't waste your money on these...the stock airbox flow is superb and it takes the air from below not the hot air from the engine bay itself. Dodge got this one right, as most post that they didn't see much of a difference. Buy the K & N high flow standard fit, or any similar brand and replace your original filter.

I see these on Craigslist from sale for penny's on the dollar...every single purchaser said the same thing. Had on car three weeks. If they drew from below, then its cosmetic and fine...otherwise running hot air into the intake, well you know the results.

This is why your car blasts off in the fall when temps are 72 deg. on a country road.

 

[ALBundy]

I couldn't agree more, CAI's have been proven and tested to be a waste of time and money.

I would only get one for the WOT sound, other than that, save your cash.

 

[RogerNapalm]

I couldn't agree more, CAI's have been proven and tested to be a waste of time and money.

I would only get one for the WOT sound, other than that, save your cash.

I couldn't disagree with you more. $250, Under an hour to install, Noticeable difference immediately. How is that a waste of money, and where have CAI's been "proven" and "tested" as such?

Not trying to be a dick. Just wondering what your frame of reference is on this statement.

 

[ALBundy]

I'm not trying to tell anyone they wasted their cash, but they did. :werd:


Check out this test for example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCi2yo4UqPI

 

[belrix]

I love my CAI! I purchased it for the noise and to dress-up the engine bay. As a bonus the throttle response seems snappier by my 'seat-of-the-pants' dyno!

I don't feel like I have wasted my money at all!

brian

 

[ALBundy]

You my friend got what you wanted out of it, congrats!

 

[samlab]

Diablo, Dodge, Flow Testing, Racing IMSA GT since 1977......the dress up is nice...like I said if you want the sound and a better flow rate past the paper filter just buy the K & N drop in....otherwise the throttle response and umpph is all in the head.

The Dodge flow is already maximized for these cars in the original design the flow rates are the same cfm's.....

If you want to dress it up great...dodge is in on these obviously and they are identical flow rates and volume to the originals.

My nephew is a design engineer with The Challenger team...satisfied now? I am the one that posted about a supercharged Chally coming back in 2011......everyone here handed me my rear end.......he who laughs get laughed at last.

Stick with the old timers we know our *mit without ego. Now go have fun.:thumbsup:

 

[stormTrooper]

Diablo, Dodge, Flow Testing, Racing IMSA GT since 1977......the dress up is nice...like I said if you want the sound and a better flow rate past the paper filter just buy the K & N drop in....otherwise the throttle response and umpph is all in the head.

The Dodge flow is already maximized for these cars in the original design the flow rates are the same cfm's.....

If you want to dress it up great...dodge is in on these obviously and they are identical flow rates and volume to the originals.

My nephew is a design engineer with The Challenger team...satisfied now? I am the one that posted about a supercharged Chally coming back in 2011......everyone here handed me my rear end.......he who laughs get laughed at last.

Stick with the old timers we know our *mit without ego. Now go have fun.:thumbsup:

I believe ya Sam, it's just at the risk of sounding naive, K&N is running a new batch of commercials. Splashed across the screen in big bold letters is "GUARANTEED TO RAISE HORSEPOWER." Blows my mind that they would blatantly lie like that and not expect to get their a$$es handed to em in a lawsuit.

 

[ddeennis]

Diablo, Dodge, Flow Testing, Racing IMSA GT since 1977......the dress up is nice...like I said if you want the sound and a better flow rate past the paper filter just buy the K & N drop in....otherwise the throttle response and umpph is all in the head.

The Dodge flow is already maximized for these cars in the original design the flow rates are the same cfm's.....

If you want to dress it up great...dodge is in on these obviously and they are identical flow rates and volume to the originals.

My nephew is a design engineer with The Challenger team...satisfied now? I am the one that posted about a supercharged Chally coming back in 2011......everyone here handed me my rear end.......he who laughs get laughed at last.

Stick with the old timers we know our *mit without ego. Now go have fun.:thumbsup:

Nephew or not, the stock cold intake is not the best, I know if any one person took the time like i did at the track and tested and retested will fine the factory cold air box and filter is the slowest in the 1/4 mile.

a simple change from the factory filter to a drop in K&N was worth .05 reduction in e.t. and worth .5 mph trap speeds, over and over again.

the K&N cai kit was worth a .10 drop in e.t. and 1 mph gain.

So it looks like your nephew needs to go back to school, track numbers don't lie.

I know someone who knows someone who is an engineer, well even the engineers get it wrong and they have limits and they don't maximize nothing, to many compromises, so for you to say it's the best or nephew, not so, because track results show the stock set up is not the best for 1/4 mile racing.

the air box is restrictive, testing at the track shows that the larger filter you use the better performance you get. so you can choke the engine using the stock set up or you can free up some power letting the engine breath using the biggest air filter you can find.

you and the rest of the world don't have to take what i say as the truth, I challenge
any one of you nay sayers to get off your big butts and go to the track and do some testing,
be fair and scientific, but how many really will, probly none, cause you all are so convinced
the cai don't do anything and none of you have any money to do the testing anyways, big mouths with no data to back up anything you say..............because i know someone who knows someone who said.............


for those who have felt the extra power, this backs up what you feel, it's there, just some of us are more intune with changes then others who just run there mouths for reason stated above

 

[samlab]

Its just a difference of opinion that all... By the way the Owner of that Certain Company that makes the reprogramming device. He said the same thing when asked him if adding the CAI to the tune would enhance the results......the gains are just not that much...and going back to the original program for emissions has been iffy at best...that's another topic here.

Let's be rather fair here......many have not noticed that much of a change and posted to topic here.

If you want performance buy the Hellcat, the SRT, the R/T. The 3.6L is a great car and the engine is terrific.....but it's a waste of money to add all these mods for little gains like you have so called expertly explained at the track. That's why more conventional dealers are offering the CORE version of the SRT.

This is why most just buy the R/T and then add to these cars which makes perfect sense.