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EVERYONE has their own opinion of what they want in a car.

Then there is the "brand loyal" aspect that some are tied to.

Here's the deal breaker for me on the Hell Cat.

I'm NOT a card carrying member of the "mopar or no car" club. So the Hell Cat is a tough to justify the price car. (IMO, there are BETTER PICKS in this price range)

For me the 392 was in the "sweet spot" of "bang for my buck" I like to see in a car. The right amount of power for the platform straight out the door.

If you really want that extra straight line "go".........and you wouldn't consider anything other than a Dodge........you probably should just write the check and make the switch.......life's too short to drive a car you don't like.
 

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Uh huh - keep believing that. :lol:
I wrote potentially for a reason.

Just two days ago, coming back from town, I ended up with a police car behind me. So instead of my normal 75-85 mph I was stuck at 55. For 10 miles!
Police brutality, I tell you, but on the other hand the resulting mileage was phenomenal.

Obviously I have no good (hand calculated) numbers for that dreadful trip, but the Lie-O-Meter was pegged the whole time.
In other words, if I always had a police escort, I have no doubt that 27 mpg is doable.
 

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I wrote potentially for a reason.

Just two days ago, coming back from town, I ended up with a police car behind me. So instead of my normal 75-85 mph I was stuck at 55. For 10 miles!
Police brutality, I tell you, but on the other hand the resulting mileage was phenomenal.

Obviously I have no good (hand calculated) numbers for that dreadful trip, but the Lie-O-Meter was pegged the whole time.
In other words, if I always had a police escort, I have no doubt that 27 mpg is doable.
I get it, but slowing down 20mph and then going 55 for 10 miles isn't the kind of 27mpg in the 6.4 with MDS that I'm talking about.
You can get that going nearly 80.

Fill up your car, set the cruise on 70, and drive a few hundred miles then fill up again - if you got 20 you should pat yourself on the back.

Most of my buddies that have HC's average about 12mpg, but hey - they didn't buy them for the fuel economy. :)
 

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I don't even know if the cruise control works on my car, and if it does, I couldn't stand sitting there at 70.

What I do know is that I get over 20, barely, on average driving like I do. That's cruising at 85-95 where possible (which is almost everywhere except in towns), almost flooring it when passing other cars (because its fun), and flinging it around the corners in the twisties.

In comparison, my girlfriend consistently gets at least 22 mpg, sometimes over 24, in her Redeye.
She drives slower than I do, but not by much. Where I will go 120, she tends to go 105-110, and she doesn't pass as aggressively as I do.

Based on that, I think that by changing driving styles a bit, both cars could get 27 mpg with relative ease.
But like your friends, we didn't buy the Challengers for the fuel economy.
 

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I don't even know if the cruise control works on my car, and if it does, I couldn't stand sitting there at 70.

What I do know is that I get over 20, barely, on average driving like I do. That's cruising at 85-95 where possible (which is almost everywhere except in towns), almost flooring it when passing other cars (because its fun), and flinging it around the corners in the twisties.

In comparison, my girlfriend consistently gets at least 22 mpg, sometimes over 24, in her Redeye.
She drives slower than I do, but not by much. Where I will go 120, she tends to go 105-110, and she doesn't pass as aggressively as I do.

Based on that, I think that by changing driving styles a bit, both cars could get 27 mpg with relative ease.
But like your friends, we didn't buy the Challengers for the fuel economy.
You aren't going to get 27mpg, sorry.
No point in arguing it.

Sure, 22mpg hypermiling it for a stretch of a flat level cruise with optimal density altitude is doable, albeit in the ZF8 and likely not the 6mt.
 

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You aren't going to get 27mpg, sorry.
No point in arguing it.

Sure, 22mpg hypermiling it for a stretch of a flat level cruise with optimal density altitude is doable, albeit in the ZF8 and likely not the 6mt.
Alright, not to argue, but I can bring in the log for the '18 and average the numbers, showing that 22 mpg is far from hyper miling it. I could also figure out the average speed, which would show that it isn't driven slowly.

Unfortunately, I have no real access to flat or level here in the Rockies, and 7,500 feet may not be optimal, but those things I can't do much about. Whatever direction I go, there's at least a 3,000 to 5,000' change in altitude.

What I could do, including with photographic evidence, is fill up in town and head south. If I kept it under 80 and didn't pass too many, I could most likely come up with at least a 27 mpg number if getting fuel down there. But it would be one fill-up, which doesn't prove a darn thing.
Plus, it'd be a boring drive, so I won't.
 

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Whatever you say boss.
Well, basically what you are saying is that either my odometer is off (it's not, according to the GPS), or every gas station I have filled up at has non-conforming meters, or I'm lying.

Since we can rule out the odometer, you get to pick from the last two. Or both, if you wish.

Maybe it's just me, but it feels a bit strange to have someone tell me what kind of mileage I get. Or don't get.
 

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Sure, 22mpg hypermiling it for a stretch of a flat level cruise with optimal density altitude is doable, albeit in the ZF8 and likely not the 6mt.
Since I really don't care for being called a liar, here are the averages for my fill-ups so far:

21.82, 22.03, 21.22, 21.57, 21.46, 20.43, 18.19, and 21.69 mpg.

That 18.19 does stand out, but it's because we did a few 60-120 runs, comparing it to the Redeye, which turned into 60-155 runs.

Anyway, would you still like to stick with your statement that it takes hyper miling on flat level ground at optimal air density to get 22 mpg?
 

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Since I really don't care for being called a liar, here are the averages for my fill-ups so far:

21.82, 22.03, 21.22, 21.57, 21.46, 20.43, 18.19, and 21.69 mpg.

That 18.19 does stand out, but it's because we did a few 60-120 runs, comparing it to the Redeye, which turned into 60-155 runs.

Anyway, would you still like to stick with your statement that it takes hyper miling on flat level ground at optimal air density to get 22 mpg?
Not looking to fight, I hope you get 50mpg, good luck.
 

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What a ride

Hi people....can I play this game too?
I have only read 3 pages of this Gas Mileage thing in a HELLCAT and if you haven't done it, you have No Clue.

I own a 2016 HellCat with the 8 speed auto.
I just finished my 2 week vacation driving to and back from Daytona Beach Florida from the Syracuse NY area.
I put just under 2800 miles on the car from June 29 to July 11th.

Now while in the cruise control mode any ware from 70-90 mph, looking at my read out on my dash I was between 24/26 mpg.
Average mpg was according to the read out on my dash was 23mpg.
The dash read out showed around 423 miles per tank.
At those speeds I was doing, the engine speed was less than 2000rpm, closer to 1800rpm.
So yeas it can and is done in a HellCat..........at least in the Challenger.>:)
 

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Now while in the cruise control mode any ware from 70-90 mph, looking at my read out on my dash I was between 24/26 mpg.
Average mpg was according to the read out on my dash was 23mpg.
The dash read out showed around 423 miles per tank.
At those speeds I was doing, the engine speed was less than 2000rpm, closer to 1800rpm.
So yeas it can and is done in a HellCat..........at least in the Challenger.>:)
Whoa! You can't present pesky numbers like that here.

Unless you're going downhill (while remaining at sea level), with the cruise set at a relatively low speed, and with a tailwind, you won't reach 20 mpg.

Or so I have been told. On the internet, no less, so it must be true.
 

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Hi people....can I play this game too?
I have only read 3 pages of this Gas Mileage thing in a HELLCAT and if you haven't done it, you have No Clue.

I own a 2016 HellCat with the 8 speed auto.
I just finished my 2 week vacation driving to and back from Daytona Beach Florida from the Syracuse NY area.
I put just under 2800 miles on the car from June 29 to July 11th.

Now while in the cruise control mode any ware from 70-90 mph, looking at my read out on my dash I was between 24/26 mpg.
Average mpg was according to the read out on my dash was 23mpg.
The dash read out showed around 423 miles per tank.
At those speeds I was doing, the engine speed was less than 2000rpm, closer to 1800rpm.
So yeas it can and is done in a HellCat..........at least in the Challenger.>:)
Beautiful HC!
 

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whut the?????

Whoa! You can't present pesky numbers like that here.

Unless you're going downhill (while remaining at sea level), with the cruise set at a relatively low speed, and with a tailwind, you won't reach 20 mpg.

Or so I have been told. On the internet, no less, so it must be true.
Funny you should say...........Just for the Halibit..........I did check the on dash mpg going down a hill,I think either in PA or VA and the cat was getting 37mpg. :surprise:

Now lets all just enjoy the ride.........:wiggle:
 

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Did you actually buy the HC for the mileage?
I bet if it didn't get over 12 mpg you would still love her. Hell my Ram 3500 dually gets 15 mpg empty and 9 to 11 mpg towing 20,000 pounds and I haven't complained about its mpg once. The thing is a beast like the HC but you guy get as good a mpg as my SXT which I did buy for the mpg it gets. LOL 15,100 miles in 8 months and counting. LOL
 

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Did you actually buy the HC for the mileage?
Nah, but it matters to me as I daily the car. Anything over 16 would have been acceptable.

For the non-believers with no data points and bad attitudes, I set my MPG guesstimator the moment I bought the car (used) and have 21.9 on the display currently, and have seen as high as 24. Hand calculated mielage per tank, though I'm not as religious as some, is within tenths.

Not so much as a tail wind, drive it every day at varying speeds, traffic conditions, and throttle positions, etc.
 

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...I set my MPG guesstimator the moment I bought the car (used) and have 21.9 on the display currently, and have seen as high as 24. Hand calculated mielage per tank, though I'm not as religious as some, is within tenths.
Don't know about the Challengers, but supposedly on Rams the displayed average is for the past several hundred miles or so, not an overall average.
It'd been nice if it was a lifetime average. Nicer yet if it was more accurate, although it sounds like yours is.
 

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Don't know about the Challengers, but supposedly on Rams the displayed average is for the past several hundred miles or so, not an overall average.
It'd been nice if it was a lifetime average. Nicer yet if it was more accurate, although it sounds like yours is.
If you have 2 trip counters, you can leave one of them forever and not reset it, that would give you "lifetime" mileage... YMMV :D
 
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