I think that Chevy hit a home run with the new mid-engine Vette. I heard that they perform as good as they look.
Ferrari is a pure sports car "boutique" car maker. They can afford to make the decision to build many different styles and themes concerning the basic idea of the "ultimate sports car"I know we already hashed it all out on the Corvette. I still don't get why GM said they reached the "limit" with front engine-rear drive configuration. True, maybe. But that's not the mission of the Corvette.
Honestly, will anyone from young and old choose this Corvette over a Lamborghini Aventador? Forget the numbers, which car will sell more posters? If Corvette was 0.05634 seconds faster, which car will kids dream of? Yes, one day GM will pour all the SUV $$$ to make Corvette the best and the fastest. So what? It's 0.098723 faster than a 911.
As for the front engine layout, Ferrari has not given up. Neither has Benz. At the end of the day, it's about selling cars, And these front engine - rear drive cars are sexy AF. So was the Corvette.
Yup.....gotta agree. I look at the current generation of the Camaro and i can still see the inspiration of that '69 it's supposed to be a Retro take on but the "modern" changes.........just horrible and it's almost like some said from the start, "Let's see if we can take one of the most popular and a best looking cars we ever designed and make it over to one of the worst"I don't disagree with what you said, but I do see the body lines of the 1st gen Camaro in the current car (for the past two gens). I think GM failed to hit the home run with the execution of front and rear lights. The face and the rear end. There's opportunity to link that heritage, and GM didn't do that.
Take the tail lights. That's unexecptable, like they ran out of time. Couldn't someone just work on the weekends to finish the design?
I'm here cause I like the Challenger. I like the Mustang. I really want to like the Camaro too..
Are we looking at the same car? I kinda doubt it. Still, styling is subjective so I'll accept that you think it's ugly. I'll just say that while back of the car leaves a lot to be desired......the front and side views are GREAT, imo. Overall a pretty good looking car.Meh..... If it had a Hellephant maybe, but it would still be ugly.
Well said (i'm just quoting this part to save space.)Bottom line:
It was time to make the switch. The execution of the change is spot on too.
Virtually the same entry level price tag as the last years front engine C7. As for performance advantage.......what more do you need to see?
I do believe (current) Camaro, as we know it, is done (again). There is no Cadillac ATS to share platform, cost, and etc. That's too bad, because the ATS was a great car too.O.J. I'm with you on the Camaro. I had a 2010 SS - at the time I thought it was the coolest looking car out there. Its design just doesn't seem to age as well as the Challenger's. The follow up versions just can't get the front/rear fascias right.
Not gonna happen for me either.
The cars styling is growing on me, but I am not head over heels in love with it.
I don't like the gauge layout. Call me old fashion, but I still prefer round gauges that have needles that move.
As far as "Retro" not the game for the Vette... your right, its not.
BUT, it very well could have been.
Chevrolet could have done a hard core, true to form, retro 1964 Grand Sport.
It would have had to been done with the same commitment that Ford had, when it brought out the 2005 Ford GT (The modern GT40)
A modern '64 Grand Sport Corvette would have been a huge hit, but it would have had to been in production by 2006/2007, when the "Retro theme" was still fresh and growing in popularity.
IMHO, Chevrolet also dropped the ball with the Camaro, by not following the Ford Mustang and Dodge Challengers more authentic styling Q's.
The 2010 Camaro's styling should have been MUCH closer to the '69 model that inspired it.
Not some quasi-cartoon, futuristic version.
There is that.Would still be too small and uncomfortable.
I'd have agreed with you had you suggested that the '14 Mustang was the last Mustang........you lose me though when you suggest the Fusion on Steroids is a good representation of what a Mustang should look like.I do believe (current) Camaro, as we know it, is done (again). There is no Cadillac ATS to share platform, cost, and etc. That's too bad, because the ATS was a great car too.
If the Challenger goes out looking exactly like the current car, it will cement itself in history. If the Mustang goes out exactly as is, awesome. Camaro can not go out looking like an ugly duckling. That's not right.
the problem with the 4th Gen F-body was by '00, it was looking very dated.I'd have agreed with you had you suggested that the '14 Mustang was the last Mustang........you lose me though when you suggest the Fusion on Steroids is a good representation of what a Mustang should look like.
Dodge makes what can easily be argued to be the inferior performer among the 3 cars. It even takes a ton of extra horsepower to get the car into the same range out on the drag strip where this car s supposed to excel.
As for Camaro going out as "the ugly duckling"........ 2002 ........that was pretty damned ugly car too.
Sad to say but Camaro has been here before.
We're a long way now from those great looking designs of the first through third generations of the car.
Ford hit a home run with Charlie's Angles sponsorship. Mustang quickly became a girl's car. It was what secretaries and mistresses drove in the late 70s. Until they wanted Benz SL in the 80s. Price went up during the Regan era.Other than Farrah on a chilly (every) day, the Mustang II only good thing is the steering being used on so many hot rods
That's my plan too. I've been wanting a Corvette since 1978.No doubt the 2020 Corvette is an amazing car - and certainly the even higher performance specs that will follow on in the next few years will be even more amazing. My hope is that every Z06 owner dumps their car onto the used market so they can buy a new one - thus driving down the Z06 used prices. Then maybe I’ll pick one up (Z06) because that’s the one I really like.
Funny things do happen in the car world.That's my plan too. I've been wanting a Corvette since 1978.
Things are funny sometimes. Every goes crazy for the G3 Acura Integra. People steal them like crazy. Now, the Acura Integra (Type R) is starting to ask for premium $$. One used 97 was sold at Barrett Jackson in Vegas for $64K.
No one want the G4 Acura Integra, when it's clearly a better car, with more power, better handling, better chassis.