If it's not too late to cancel, I'd go for the 2012. While the key changes have been revealed, there may be a few more tidbits that haven't been...
If it's not too late to cancel, I'd go for the 2012. While the key changes have been revealed, there may be a few more tidbits that haven't been...Now I think I will just cancel my order of the 2011 challenger SRT :disappointed:
You are such a tease RS.If it's not too late to cancel, I'd go for the 2012. While the key changes have been revealed, there may be a few more tidbits that haven't been...
OK... I'm VERY happy about the active dampening control... Dodge, I know this is rarity from me, but...The 2012 Challenger SRT will come Standard with two Mode Active Damping Suspension.
Ready Alert braking and Rain Brake Support will both be standard on all models of the 2012 Challenger.
--RS
The active dampening is really, in essence, no more than a small motor afixed to the top of the coilover... easily accessed, just open the hood/trunk. Right there in plain view, and those motors aren't expensive.Until it breaks soon after the warranty runs out... Sorry - shouldn't be negative but all that fancy stuff doesn't make that much difference and adds weight and fragility to the car.
That is the reason you don't see recessed grills (like the Challengers) on any other cars these days. The 0.35 is a respectable accomplishment given the recessed grill, sure Dodge worked hard to get down to that number. The end result is a look that stands out from everything else on the road....interesting to read the 2012 Charger had a drag coefficient of 0.29. Compare that to the Challengers 0.35.
so does this mean that in 'normal' mode, the 2012 cars will have the softer ride of the 2008-10 models, but in sport mode will handle like the 2011 cars ??The 2012 Challenger SRT will come Standard with two Mode Active Damping Suspension.
Who knows what they'll set the dampening at...so does this mean that in 'normal' mode, the 2012 cars will have the softer ride of the 2008-10 models, but in sport mode will handle like the 2011 cars ??
It probably has to do with the Challenger is just beyond the mid-point in its current configuration - it would be very costly (and not re-couped in sales) to redesign the dash and have to go through all the NHTSA crash-testing (lots of $$$).He said the Challenger was NOT going to get that big Charger-style screen because it "is tied in to too many systems and would require a complete interior overhaul" which is NOT slated to happen in the Challenger.
Although he did mentioned that the Jeep Grand Cherokee was going to get it for some reason. :scratchhead:
dont forget paddle shiftersSo this is what we've got so far:
-New SRT steering wheel (example is from 2012 Charger)
-The 2012 Challenger SRT will come Standard with two Mode Active Damping Suspension.
-Ready Alert braking and Rain Brake Support will both be standard on all models of the 2012 Challenger.
-900 watt speaker system - 18speaker
So what else?
-Blind Spot Assist?
-Adaptive Cruise Control?
I know the feeling. I bought my Olds Intrigue in December of 2000 as a "leftover" specifically because GM was shoving On*Star in all of their cars for Y2001. It used to be a $500 option, and I just didn't want to pay for it as an unwanted hidden doodad, buried the base price.I dont want all this new stuff to break later. Yeah i said break later, ive worked on Chrysler cars for over 16 years and have seen it all. I want it simple period.
No for all three...RS: will the 2012 SRT8 have any of the following:
rear backup camera?
chrome wheel option?
launch control for the six speed's?
I assume that the default is dual black stripes, otherwise there'd be no stripe delete necessary, is this correct? Wouldn't make much sense to me to discontinue black as a stripe color.2012 Challenger SRT
Options:
DUAL GRAY CENTER STRIPES
DUAL SILVER CENTER STRIPES
STRIPE DELETE
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I edited my post above to add "WPA" for the 20x9 wheels and to add the dual black stripes as Standard.I assume that the default is dual black stripes, otherwise there'd be no stripe delete necessary, is this correct? Wouldn't make much sense to me to discontinue black as a stripe color.
Also, will the WPA wheels be offered? Is that what the "20X9.0 ALUMINUM WHEELS" means?
Any drivetrain differences (HP, torque, 6 speed gear ratios) from 2011?2012 Challenger SRT
6.4L V8 SRT HEMI ENGINE (ESH) (Standard)
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...Thanks RS.......Boston Acoustics? ...What happened to the 900 Watt HK System?2012 Challenger SRT
6.4L V8 SRT HEMI ENGINE (ESH) (Standard)
5-SPEED AUTO W5A580 TRANSMISSION (Optional)
DUAL BLACK CENTER STRIPES
Seats:
PREMIUM LEATHER TRIMMED BUCKET SEATS (Dark Slate Gray)
Options:
20X9.0 ALUMINUM WHEELS (WPA)
245/45ZR20 255/45ZR20 PERF TIRES
DUAL GRAY CENTER STRIPES
DUAL SILVER CENTER STRIPES
ENGINE BLOCK HEATER
MANUF STATEMENT OF ORIGIN
MEDIA CENTER 730N CD/DVD/MP3/HDD/NAV
MOPAR INTERIOR APPEARANCE GROUP
POWER SUNROOF
STRIPE DELETE
Exterior colors:
BLACK CLEAR COAT
BRIGHT SILVER METALLIC CLEAR COAT
BRIGHT WHITE CLEAR COAT
HEADER ORANGE CLEAR COAT
MIDNIGHT BLUE PEARL COAT
TORRED
TUNGSTEN METALLIC CLEAR COAT
SRT8 Standard Features:
12V CENTER CONSOLE POWER OUTLET (JKW)
180 MPH PRIMARY SPEEDOMETER (JCG)
19.1 GALLON FUEL TANK (NGA)
1-YEAR SIRIUS RADIO SERVICE (X9B)
20X9.0 ALUMINUM SRT DESIGN WHEELS (WP3)
220 AMP ALTERNATOR (BAJ)
226MM REAR AXLE (DRC)
245/45ZR20 AS PERFORMANCE TIRES (TR9)
276 WATT AMPLIFIER (RD7)
3.92 REAR AXLE RATIO (DMH)
30GB HARD DRIVE W/6700 SONG CAPACITY (XRF)
392 HEMI BADGE (MSS)
50 STATE EMISSIONS (NAS)
6 BOSTON ACOUSTICS SPEAKERS (RC6)
6.5" TOUCH SCREEN DISPLAY (RFH)
730 AMP MAINTENANCE FREE BATTERY (BCN)
ACTIVE HEAD RESTRAINTS (CBD)
ADVANCED MULTISTAGE FRONT AIR BAGS** (CG3)
AIR CONDITIONING W/AUTO TEMP CONTROL (HAB)
ALL SPEED TRACTION CONTROL (BNP)
ANTI-LOCK 4-WHEEL DISC PERF BRAKES (BR4)
ANTI-SPIN DIFFERENTIAL REAR AXLE (DSA)
AUDIO JACK INPUT FOR MOBILE DEVICES (RSU)
AUTOMATIC HEADLAMPS (LMG)
BASE HEADLINER MODULE (CHK)
BLUETOOTH STREAMING AUDIO (RSL)
BODY COLOR DOOR HANDLES (MNK)
BODY COLOR EXTERIOR MIRRORS (LEP)
BODY COLOR FASCIAS (MLA)
BRAKE & KNUCKLE PARTS MODULE (X8X)
BRAKE ASSIST (BGE)
BRAKE/PARK INTERLOCK (XSL)
BRIGHT FUEL FILLER DOOR (XJE)
BRIGHT PEDALS (XAR)
CARGO COMPARTMENT DRESS-UP (CKM)
CELL PHONE STORAGE (CVK)
CENTER REAR 3-POINT SEAT BELT (CG6)
CHILD SEAT UPPER TETHER ANCHORAGES (CF4)
CHMSL LAMP (LPS)
DELETE SPARE TIRE (TBF)
DUAL BLACK CENTER STRIPES (M2R)
DUAL BRIGHT EXHAUST TIPS (NEL)
DUAL NOTE ELECTRIC HORNS (JJB)
DUAL REAR EXHAUST (NER)
ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (BNB)
ENGINE - 6.4L V8 SRT HEMI ENGINE (ESH)
ENGINE OIL COOLER (NHA)
FLOOR CARPET (CKD)
FLOOR CONSOLE W/ARMREST (CM6)
FOG LAMPS (LNJ)
FRONT & REAR SOLAR CONTROL GLASS (GBC)
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT BELT ALERT (LAX)
FRONT READING/MAP LAMPS (LBG)
FRONT/REAR CLIMATE CONTROL OUTLETS (XGA)
FUNCTIONAL HOOD SCOOP (MGB)
GOODYEAR BRAND TIRES (TZA)
GVW RATING - 5300# (Z1E)
HEATED FRONT SEATS (JPM)
HEATED STEERING WHEEL (NHS)
HIGH INTENSITY DISCHARGE HEADLAMPS (LMP)
HIGH PERFORM SUSPENSION (SDX)
HILL START ASSIST (BNG)
HYDRAULIC ASSIST BRAKE BOOSTER (BPT)
ILLUMINATED CUPHOLDERS (CWP)
ILLUMINATED DOOR PULL HANDLES (LNK)
ILLUMINATED ENTRY (LAC)
INSTR. CLUSTER SRT PERFORMANCE INFO (JAV)
INSTRUMENT PANEL PARTS MODULE (X81)
INTEGRATED IN REAR WINDOW ANTENNA (RDL)
KEYLESS ENTRY (GXR)
KEYLESS GO (GX4)
KNOCK BACK MITIGATION (BHE)
LEATHER TRIM SEATS (CDM)
LEATHER WRAPPED SHIFT KNOB (CVB)
LEATHER WRAPPED STEERING WHEEL (SCC)
LUXURY FRONT & REAR FLOOR MATS (CLZ)
MEDIA CENTER 430 CD/DVD/MP3/HDD (RBZ)
NON ADJUSTABLE PEDALS (XA8)
NON LOCKING FUEL FILLER CAP (XJG)
PARKSENSE REAR PARK ASSIST SYSTEM (XAA)
PASSENGER ASSIST HANDLE (CSP)
PERFORMANCE TUNED STEERING (SBX)
POWER 4-WAY DRIVER LUMBAR ADJUST (JPU)
POWER 6-WAY DRIVER SEAT (JPS)
POWER ACCESSORY DELAY (JKY)
POWER HEATED MIRRORS, FOLD-AWAY (GUK)
POWER TRAIN PARTS MODULE (X87)
POWER TRUNKLID RELEASE (JPC)
PREMIUM LEATHER TRIMMED BUCKET SEATS (*UL)
POWER WINDOWS, FRONT 1-TOUCH DOWN (JPY)
RAIN BRAKE SUPPORT (BHC)
READY ALERT BRAKING (BHD)
REAR 60/40 FOLDING SEAT (CFN)
REAR COURTESY LAMPS (LBW)
REAR SPOILER (MXR)
REAR STABILIZER BAR (SHF)
REAR SUSPENSION DAMPER PARTS MODULE (X91)
REAR SUSPENSION PARTS MODULE (X85)
REAR WINDOW DEFROSTER (GFA)
REMOTE PROXIMITY KEYLESS ENTRY (GXD)
REMOTE USB PORT (RSX)
REARR ARMREST W/CUPHOLDER SEAT (CSN)
REAR VIEW AUTO DIM MIRROR W/MICROPHONE (GN5)
SATIN CHROME GRILLE (MFH)
SATIN SILVER LOCK KNOBS (GXL)
SECURITY ALARM (LSA)
SENTRY KEY THEFT DETERRENT SYSTEM (GXX)
SEVERE DUTY II ENGINE COOLING (XDL)
SILVER METAL BRUSH CENTER STACK BEZEL (JBD)
SIRIUS SATELLITE RADIO (RSC)
SOLAR CONTROL GLASS (GAM)
SPEED CONTROL (NHM)
SPEED SENSITIVE POWER LOCKS (JPH)
SPORT MODE (XG8)
SRT TRACK EXPERIENCE (XPY)
SRT8 BADGE (MTV)
STEERING WHEEL MOUNTED AUDIO CTRLS (RDZ)
SUN VISORS W/ILLUM VANITY MIRRORS (GNC)
SUPP. SIDE CURTAIN FRT/RR AIR BAGS (CJ2)
SUPPLEMENTAL FRT SEAT SIDE AIR BAGS (CJ1)
SUPPLEMENTAL SIDE AIR BAGS (CGS)
TEMPERATURE & COMPASS GAUGE (JFJ)
TILT/TELESCOPE STEERING COLUMN (SUD)
TIRE & WHEEL PARTS MODULE (X88)
TIRE PRESSURE MONITORING DISPLAY (XGM)
TIRE SERVICE KIT (XFP)
TRANSMISSION - 6-SPEED MANUAL TREMEC TRANSMISSION (DEC)
TRAVELER/MINI TRIP COMPUTER (LET)
TRUNK LAMP (LDC)
TWO MODE ACTIVE DAMPENING SUSPENSION (SMC)
UCONNECT VOICE COMMAND W/BLUETOOTH (RSP)
UNIVERSAL GARAGE DOOR OPENER (XGD)
VAR INTERMITTENT WINDSHIELD WIPERS (JHA)
VEHICLE INFORMATION CENTER (LAZ)
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