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Hey so I bought a 17 hellcat a8, after I made the thread about deep discount on buyback hellcats I opted for brand new. This car had just shy of 100 miles and was on the dealer lot about 290 days. I made an offer and walked away with it.

But as you'll see in my photos I'm wondering if the driver side had damage and was repaired but not told to me.

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I attached picture of both side but driver side seems out of alignment, the plastic panel by the foot rest is not set properly and feels like half your foot is hanging off. Drives fine as far as I can tell but just seems like a lot of deviation on a 70k car.


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Normal, I thought the same thing when I bought my 2017 T/A 392. I had to adjust the hood, trunk, wheel alignment. My driver side molding and A pillar trim fit like shit too.

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I'm a professional collision repair technician. In my opinion something was done to the left (drivers side) of the car. Belt molding has obviously been removed and reinstalled (and it needs to be replaced. The retraining tab was snapped off during removal, that's why it sticks up at the back.)

Possibly the fender was replaced or repaired. Check all the retaining clips in the wheel area and bolts under the hood for tool marks or inconsistency side to side.

If you believe that your concerns are valid, you may need a professional for a post collection inspection.
 

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How many cars do you think get sold a year that have been "repaired" Mr OregonScat? I felt as the OP with 60 miles on vehicle when purchased. Though I now attribute some of my cars issues to the "T/A" option package installed at the third party facility.

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Nothing on my new 2016 Hellcat lined up when I picked it up, but it sure is fun to blow the tires off.
 

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Not "normal" but hard to tell if it's from a repair or a "bad hair day" car at Brampton.


My '16 SP was built within the first couple of days at the model start up, and the fit and finish was outstanding. Much better than my '10.


I would go back to the dealer and ask WTF, and have them fix this. It's under warranty and does look terrible.


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How many cars do you think get sold a year that have been "repaired" Mr OregonScat? I felt as the OP with 60 miles on vehicle when purchased.

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I don't have any idea. I do know that the damage needs to cross a threshold before disclosure is required (depending on state law and manufacturers requirements.)

I'm sure, some shady dealers keep everything in house and don't disclose anything

During my 3 years with Ford, I saw one vehicle, that was damaged after delivery to the dealer. 2015 aluminum F150, minor rear door damage. The damage was below Fords threshold and the vehicle was sold as new with no disclosure.

I saw several minor issues from shipping and again, minor issues with dealer trades. But these were more along the lines of dings and/or scratches.

I personally don't think the number is very large.
 

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It is a 70k car but it is barely a wal-mart worthy body. I've looked at hundreds and all of the suck somewhere in body panel alignment. The body is made from metal about half as thick as aluminum foil too. :lol:


Your car actually looks pretty good and most likely hasn't been in a body shop....In fact it looks better than mine on the drivers door. A lot of challengers have that same look. Walk around back and look at the trunk on your car...it isn't perfectly centered either...



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my 16 scat pack had lots of body panel misalignment issues and lots of paint issues (runs, prep issues). This one had 16 miles upon delivery.
my 16 hellcat body (except for hood alignment) and paint are much better. however, front wheel alignment was out. This car 29 miles when I picked it up.
 

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It is a 70k car but it is barely a wal-mart worthy body. I've looked at hundreds and all of the suck somewhere in body panel alignment. The body is made from metal about half as thick as aluminum foil too. :lol:


Your car actually looks pretty good and most likely hasn't been in a body shop....In fact it looks better than mine on the drivers door. A lot of challengers have that same look. Walk around back and look at the trunk on your car...it isn't perfectly centered either...



Enjoy it.

Perhaps..my 15 scat pack had no alignment issues not even the trunk. This one has perfect alignment on trunk as well but I guess the issues all being localized in one specific area is what's perking my ears up.


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I would definitely have it looked at by a professional body shop. All of my Challengers have had fitment issues but nothing like those.
 

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The panels align well on my 2016 SP. I'm a retired body shop owner and continue to find very small dents. Probably not visible to folks that have not done body work but it indicates the quality of the finish is not what it could be.
 

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my 18 had only one paint issue on the hood and I went over the entire car with a light. I think the fact that the 18's rolled out of the Brampton plant with the brand new paint shop clearly shows the improvement over the earlier models.

My panel gaps look pretty good. I suppose if I wanted to nit-pick, the gap between the front fenders and hood is slightly mismatched and some interior trim is not 100% perfect, but I don't have any rattles or squeaks or anything.

I'd say coming from a BMW 5-series to this, the fit and finish is nearly on-par with it. Only one area is better. That would be the door panels. My door panels don't feel like they are 100% connected to the doors. Whereas my BMW, it felt like it was absolutely rock-solid.
 

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All of my Challengers have had some issue with fit and finish, it is par for the course. Go to a paint shop with a paint gauge and have them inspect. If it had any paint work it will be easy to find with the proper equipment and an experienced eye...

A year and 100 miles at the dealer leaves a lot of room for shenanigans...
 

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You should have seen them in 1970! Now I am sure that was a lark. I keep waiting for shows like GC to make bad panel gaps part of an authentic factory restoration but they haven't yet!

I remember in 1986 my friends Dad bought a "brand new" black Buick Regal. It took me two seconds to point out that it had been hit in the left front fender and badly repaired. I mean BAD. There were long straight tape masking lines across the chrome wheel well trim. Couldn't even be bothered to take it off. And the orange peel in the paint was just hideous.

My Dad bought an "executive car" from a client of his who owned a Toyota dealer. Really...who is stupid enough to F their accountant you would think? But this guy sure did. My Dad was pretty pissed when I opened his door and showed him the "Hertz" sticker.

Buyer beware. Even for a new car. I still can't believe they don't bother to clear the metallic under the hoods, etc... on my $50K SRT 392! I still sort of want to have the paint thickness measured, but I am kind of scared to know.


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