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Yep, you guys were right. Installed the Predator today and WOW :eyemouth: what a difference. Thanks for all the positive input.
 

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Yeah. Can predator owners comment on horsepower and gas mileage savings? I was thinking about getting one but want to know the difference before hand.
 

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Is the Predator available yet which will disable the MDS and change the shift points on a 2010 Auto RT?
 

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Yeah, I think so.
 

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Stupid question alert:

Once you make changes with the Predator (MDS disable, shift point changes etc...) do they stay that way until you change them back or does it reset to factory settings every time the car is turned off?
 

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TRANSLATION: "I don't know"
Who the hell are you to critique me? I don't even know you; and by the looks of it; I probably wouldn't want to.
 

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Stupid question alert:

Once you make changes with the Predator (MDS disable, shift point changes etc...) do they stay that way until you change them back or does it reset to factory settings every time the car is turned off?
The changes are supposed to remain unless you purposely reflash the car back to the factory tune.
 

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The changes are supposed to remain unless you purposely reflash the car back to the factory tune.
Saaaweeet. Thanks
 

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….I would strongly suggest searching though since there seems to be certain caveats as well as conflicting (or flat out wrong) information floating around out there. Sounds like you are already aware of that though.

I’m in the same boat btw. However, I don’t want to spend money on a tuner that will have a conflict with my model year, current factory flash version, etc. Unfortunately, it’s some of those features that folks seem to have compatibility issues with that are the ones I want the tuner for in the first place.
 

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….I would strongly suggest searching though since there seems to be certain caveats as well as conflicting (or flat out wrong) information floating around out there. Sounds like you are already aware of that though.

I’m in the same boat btw. However, I don’t want to spend money on a tuner that will have a conflict with my model year, current factory flash version, etc. Unfortunately, it’s some of those features that folks seem to have compatibility issues with that are the ones I want the tuner for in the first place.
Yeah I've read of many of those same issues. Seems like it's hard to get a straight answer. My Challenger is stuck in the garage for 3-4 more months anyways though so I guess I have a lot of time to read up.
 

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I put in the 93 octane tune and changed the shift points. I took it for a short test run. It definately pulls stronger and shifts right at the red line, which is 6025 on the SRT. I rolled out in first and hammered it at about 20 mph. The back end broke loose and did a little fish tale right to left. It hasn't ever did this before. That was with stability control on. The power is there and you can feel it. None of this, well I think its quicker. It is!
 

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Ok, i started a thread "diapointed by predator" i found that the 09 rt auto u can shut off mds you can change shift firmness but not shift points, at least on the 09 rt.
oh i also reset tcm adaption.
also i loaded the 91 cai and got a good feel for more power, but without track or dyno proof.
noticed today that gas milage was better where i drive around maybe to do mds delete.

haven't tried esp off yet, as i'm having a lot of traction problems now.
diablo mike says to post your questions on the diablo site for quick response from them.
good luck, i'm very happy with the predator.
 

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Disable MDS - Yes
Change shiftpoints - no.. you can adjust shift FIRMNESS, but not shift points

Horsepower increase and gas mileage improvements are mutually exclusive.. especially since you'll want to put your foot in it more once you have the tune installed. On my 09 R/T, Auto, HP stock was 332 (at the wheels). With 93CAI tune it was 345. So, slightly less than 5% increase. Butt dyno feels more though.

Once you make a change/install the tune., it stays until you return to stock.

Mike
 

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haven't tried esp off yet, as i'm having a lot of traction problems now.
diablo mike says to post your questions on the diablo site for quick response from them.
good luck, i'm very happy with the predator.
Just a note on disabling ESP on the R/T's.When you press the ESP button it will partially disable the system,...then while in drive and moving forward turn the key to the full start position,(the stater will not crank),and hold it there until you hear a few chimes.The ESP and BAS will be illuminated indicating that the ESP system is fully disabled.Hang on an have fun,:burnout:
 

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Just a note on disabling ESP on the R/T's.When you press the ESP button it will partially disable the system,...then while in drive and moving forward turn the key to the full start position,(the stater will not crank),and hold it there until you hear a few chimes.The ESP and BAS will be illuminated indicating that the ESP system is fully disabled.Hang on an have fun,:burnout:
Does that little trick work on the 6spd R/Ts, too? You know, like moving in 1st gear then turning the key. I've read about this before and been kinda paranoid to try it because I haven't seen anyone else with a 6spd say they successfully tried it.
 

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Just a note on disabling ESP on the R/T's.When you press the ESP button it will partially disable the system,...then while in drive and moving forward turn the key to the full start position,(the stater will not crank),and hold it there until you hear a few chimes.The ESP and BAS will be illuminated indicating that the ESP system is fully disabled.Hang on an have fun,:burnout:
....note that R/T's with the STP - Super Track Pack option have the ability to fully disable the ESP by holding the button for about 5-10 seconds while stopped. That's one of the features of the option. Only the traction control icon will illuminate (as it does when partially off), a chime will sound and if you have the EVIC, a message will state that that it is now disabled. ....no key trick needed. :browsmiley:
 

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Does that little trick work on the 6spd R/Ts, too? You know, like moving in 1st gear then turning the key. I've read about this before and been kinda paranoid to try it because I haven't seen anyone else with a 6spd say they successfully tried it.
Yes,...this works the same for R/T 6 speeds.I have fully disabled the ESP at speeds of 10 to 60 MPH.
 
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