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Anyone have any tips on replacing a 2013 quarter panel with a 2015+ current replacement? I can’t imagine it can be that difficult. The dealers shop doesn’t know what to do since the current replacement quarter has the rolled style wheel opening lip like on the 2015+ and it looks too small to attach to my 2013. Should I tell them they need to install the outer wheelhouse as well? They are discussing with Dodge.
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I should mention they are replacing the quarter under warranty for a rust through issue in front of the rear wheel.
 

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Besides the rolled lip you mentioned they should be exactly the same, what size are referring to, IE (looks to small to attach to my 2013)?
 

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Not sure but I would assume it has to be the wheel well lip that they are talking about. I only spoke to them on the phone and the service writer talked about the quarter panel being different, smaller and that it would not work and they were going to talk to Dodge. I can’t imagine the outer wheelhouse couldn’t be made to fit.
Besides the rolled lip you mentioned they should be exactly the same, what size are referring to, IE (looks to small to attach to my 2013)?
 

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I wouldn't assume they are the same panel except for the lip, sure they look similar but are they? I don't know how you could be sure anyway unless someone has already done it to verify.

Dealers generally don't like to do mods as this usually increases time and costs, they like to just like to bolt on stock parts, just like the book says. Keeps everything nice and easy and no surprises and with FCA paying them for the repair (warranty), I'm surprised they are going for this.







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Why do they/you want to use a 2015+ replacement panel? You would think they would want to use an exact replacement if it was being covered by warranty. Are the older panels not available?
 

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I wouldn't assume they are the same panel except for the lip, sure they look similar but are they? I don't know how you could be sure anyway unless someone has already done it to verify.

Dealers generally don't like to do mods as this usually increases time and costs, they like to just like to bolt on stock parts, just like the book says. Keeps everything nice and easy and no surprises and with FCA paying them for the repair (warranty), I'm surprised they are going for this.

Sorry Slidd the outer fenders are the same except for the rolled lip, even the weld points, mounting holes are all the same. I have owned almost every model since 2008 and I have taken a few of them completely apart, so I kind a know man ;). I have no idea if the OP is just talking about the outer fender quarter panel? Also I do not know why the body shop is/was trying to use a 2015 rolled lip fender and not the previous 08-14 style, both were available, something change?
 

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I honestly don't understand the issue. It makes me nervous about the people doing the repair.

Dodge sells one 1/4 to cover all years now. A rolled lip flange doesn't come rolled, it comes as a standard flat flange. The 15+ Challenger 1/4 comes with the flange style needed for installation on a 14 and older, right out of the box.

They need to test fit the panel and everything will become clear.
 

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I honestly don't understand the issue. It makes me nervous about the people doing the repair.

Dodge sells one 1/4 to cover all years now. A rolled lip flange doesn't come rolled, it comes as a standard flat flange. The 15+ Challenger 1/4 comes with the flange style needed for installation on a 14 and older, right out of the box.

They need to test fit the panel and everything will become clear.
I guess that makes sense then, cool!
 

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Ok I see now said the blind man! :D

Hope it all works out Bob.

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I honestly don't understand the issue. It makes me nervous about the people doing the repair.

Dodge sells one 1/4 to cover all years now. A rolled lip flange doesn't come rolled, it comes as a standard flat flange. The 15+ Challenger 1/4 comes with the flange style needed for installation on a 14 and older, right out of the box.

They need to test fit the panel and everything will become clear.
Thanks, that’s what I needed to know. They said there is only one quarter panel to fit all years. I will stop by the shop tomorrow and look at it. They said there was a change to the quarter to fit the newer cars and the original 2008-2014 was no longer available but that the newer part had some issue with fit. The service writer I don’t have a lot of faith in, so maybe he doesn’t understand the problem. I wonder if they changed recently to a newer rolled lip design for production line ease of assembly. Your right this shop Is owned by a large dealership group and does warranty and collision repair. I am sure they just want to bolt on parts and not do modifications.
 

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Thanks, that’s what I needed to know. They said there is only one quarter panel to fit all years. I will stop by the shop tomorrow and look at it. They said there was a change to the quarter to fit the newer cars and the original 2008-2014 was no longer available but that the newer part had some issue with fit. The service writer I don’t have a lot of faith in, so maybe he doesn’t understand the problem. I wonder if they changed recently to a newer rolled lip design for production line ease of assembly. Your right this shop Is owned by a large dealership group and does warranty and collision repair. I am sure they just want to bolt on parts and not do modifications.
Dodge should have all the information needed to install a superseded part, if any modifications or additional parts are necessary.

One problem is that dealer body shops, very often, use the collision estimating system for ordering parts. This system is generic and covers all makes and models.

The actual parts/service department software would have the additional parts notes and updated procedural information.

Getting this information requires walking across a parking lot or navigating a few hallways, and that is hard.
 

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Still not resolved, they say the bottom of the quarter panel dogleg has a different profile and they want to replace both sides so that they match. They service writer is not a technical guy so he doesn't really know what the issue is other than some close up photos that they sent to Chrysler and the regional rep is supposed to come out on Monday. I am not complaining, I hope they can get the approval since the other quarter has a small rust bubble starting also. 5 years old, garage kept but driven daily and both quarters are rusting through from the inside.
 

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Still not resolved, they say the bottom of the quarter panel dogleg has a different profile and they want to replace both sides so that they match. They service writer is not a technical guy so he doesn't really know what the issue is other than some close up photos that they sent to Chrysler and the regional rep is supposed to come out on Monday. I am not complaining, I hope they can get the approval since the other quarter has a small rust bubble starting also. 5 years old, garage kept but driven daily and both quarters are rusting through from the inside.
Hi Bob Tiley,

We are sorry to hear that you have an ongoing concern with your Challenger. Please let us know if you need additional assistance while you work with your dealer.

Darlene
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Sub to the actual fender along where the rocking cladding is, there was a modification done for the new cladding attachment points. Is that what the body shop is referring too? I thought initially you were only talking about the rear fender lip rolls. For a complete rear quarter replacement that sub area on your '13 should be left there if possible. If that's rusted too well, not sure what that procedure would be as the only replacement is a '15 and up panel. Hmm, Chrysler should have directions on a repair like that. It's all minor and I am surprised the body-shop can't tweak the panel to fit properly.
 

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Still not fixed or even started after 30 days in the dealer body shop. I stopped by last week. They have the rear bumper removed and a small section of the quarter cut out in front of the rear tire and it is totally full of rust. They say it will need both quarters replaced along with outer wheelhouses to be correct and the same on both sides. Still waiting on a Fiat/Chrysler regional manager to look at the car and approve the repair. If they don't do something soon I will have to get my local Lemon Law attorney on board to get me a cash settlement and get it fixed on my own by a competent body repair craftsman that does not just weld on (or panel bond these days) replacement panels.
 

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After 2 months they finally got Chrysler approval to replace the right rear quarter and outer wheelhouse. They said no to the left side which currently has small rust bubble but is now out of warranty. Should have it back in 4 weeks.
 

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If that is the bottom of the quarter panel someone must have fixed a rust issue in the past and it looks like they didn’t do a correct repair. To do it right a body shop would need to weld in a steel patch panel in that area without using a bunch of filler or replace the entire quarter panel and outer wheelhouse.
 
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