i am going to buy the procharger H.O system for my 2009 hemi R/T challenger. the car only has 3,100 miles. this project is going to cost me around $7,000. do any of you guys have and advice, like the pros & cons of doing this project. the guys at procharger tell me the H.O system is for a un-modified engine. do you guys think this is the blower to go with? thanks!
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Search the archives. There are a lot of supercharger threads!
http://www.challengertalk.com/forums/f18/official-supercharger-thread-challengers-50686/
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I loved my Procharger!!!!! Only con about it is that you need to drive it like you have a blower on it. Its totally different driving it with the blower. Its not just get in and go anymore. Keep it out of part throttle boost and everything will be fine. GET A BOOST GAUGE AND WIDEBAND AFR GAUGE!!!!!
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give some thought to getting the stage II upgrade. It is a minimal cost.
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There's no bypass valve? No blow off valve? You're always in boost?
3100 miles is no problem. I had 23,000 miles when I installed the Vortech. It has no part throttle issues. It has WOT issues,,, Traction. You will have to run 91 oct fuel. I like the water to air cooled FI air charge.
Cost for mine was $5,100.00 Its an easy at home DIY install.
My 5.7 had 338wrhp NA now it has 6lbs boost [email protected] 5400rpm and 488tq
It runs an easy low 12s at 115 mph at whitch should get the car to easy high 11s with slicks, with that mph out back.
This is 100% stock 5.7 Not even headers. PM me if you need anything.
Good luck, FlatTop
Cost for mine was $5,100.00 Its an easy at home DIY install.
My 5.7 had 338wrhp NA now it has 6lbs boost [email protected] 5400rpm and 488tq
It runs an easy low 12s at 115 mph at whitch should get the car to easy high 11s with slicks, with that mph out back.
This is 100% stock 5.7 Not even headers. PM me if you need anything.
Good luck, FlatTop
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I just updated the initial post on the Official Supercharger Thread for Challengers with some statistics of ChallengerTalk Superchargers Owners.
I just updated the initial post on the Official Supercharger Thread for Challengers with some statistics of ChallengerTalk Superchargers Owners.
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Pro chargers are great systems, however 7k for the system is a little high, unless you are factoring in the install cost. We sell that system for less than $5500 it is a very good setup, someone noted the stage two upgrade is well worth it if you plan to up the boost down the road
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The Procharger HO kit came on the Magnum SRT8 (stock 6.1) I bought. It is a very good kit. Driveability is great with no part throttle issues. I would heed SRT8U and others who have stated, if you plan on future upgrades (heads, cam, stroker), to go with the stage 2 system so you can increase your boost based on your future mods.
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[QUOTE=SRT8Tech;731026]I loved my Procharger!!!!! Only con about it is that you need to drive it like you have a blower on it. Its totally different driving it with the blower. Its not just get in and go anymore. Keep it out of part throttle boost and everything will be fine. GET A BOOST GAUGE AND WIDEBAND AFR GAUGE!!!!![/QUOTE]
I also am going with the procharger ho system. I did alot of research on superchargers and seems like this is the one for me. One of the reasons was that you didn't even notice the blower until you put your foot in it. I am curious of you comments. Could you be more specific????/
I also am going with the procharger ho system. I did alot of research on superchargers and seems like this is the one for me. One of the reasons was that you didn't even notice the blower until you put your foot in it. I am curious of you comments. Could you be more specific????/
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A ProCharger (and Vortech) are centrifugal superchargers. They make more boost as RPMs rise. There are many benefits to this. Contrast that to positive displacement supercharger, which will more or less make constant boost throughout the RPM range. Do your research and figure out which type is right for you. There is no right or wrong answer.
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I have both the Vortech and Procharger units available and at a price that is hard to beat! $5685 installed price here for the Vortech units and just about $650 more for Procharger units.
You really cant go wrong with either system. Which unit do you like the looks of more?
Tim C
You really cant go wrong with either system. Which unit do you like the looks of more?
Tim C
You have alot of Vendors and Procharger owners that have commented about the HO kits. I have the HO kit on my Charger and put down 800+ rwhp and run deep 9's with the HO intercooler and bracket setup with that said if your looking to run some solid numbers the HO kit will be fine!!!
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9SECSRT runs a H.O. kit we mastered so anyone that tells you the H.O. kit isn't for modified HEMI's, they don't know what they're talking about. lol The Stage 2 kit is a nice kit, too, don't get me wrong and for the price it's not too much more but the install time is double since it is a much more complicated install. If you're paying for installation, this means the difference in price is not $600, it could be closer to $1200 more.
The ProCharger kits work great on the VVT motors, we just made over 500rwhp on a H.O. kit on a 6-Speed yesterday with an ultra safe tune. The VVT's really take to boost well, but the tuning is quite complicated and beside our shops, there's only maybe 5 tuners throughout the entire country I trust to understand the high level of tuning the vvt motors need to tune them safely.
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The ProCharger kits work great on the VVT motors, we just made over 500rwhp on a H.O. kit on a 6-Speed yesterday with an ultra safe tune. The VVT's really take to boost well, but the tuning is quite complicated and beside our shops, there's only maybe 5 tuners throughout the entire country I trust to understand the high level of tuning the vvt motors need to tune them safely.
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If you have a 400+ci motor you need stage II
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I never thought about presenting it that way - but that pretty much sums up the builds we do. That's a good guideline on when you should upgrade to the Stage 2 as the high torque on the strokers could potentially cause belt slippage.
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SOOO... now i am completely confused??? I have a Challenger SRT8. Which is best for me Pro Charger, Vortech, Magna charger???? All basically good... I am not racing just a mid life crisis car that NEEDS to be as muscle as I can without going TOOO, TOOO nuts. I have already done high flow exhaust, cold air intake and Diablo which I know I will eliminate the cold air intake...I want to be able to drive normal and when I need it it's there... leaving SS Comaro's and Shelby's behind...
SOOO... now i am completely confused??? I have a Challenger SRT8. Which is best for me Pro Charger, Vortech, Magna charger???? All basically good... I am not racing just a mid life crisis car that NEEDS to be as muscle as I can without going TOOO, TOOO nuts. I have already done high flow exhaust, cold air intake and Diablo which I know I will eliminate the cold air intake...I want to be able to drive normal and when I need it it's there... leaving SS Comaro's and Shelby's behind...
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Charlie, just search around this forum. There are tons of threads from the great supercharger wars of 2010. There are so many options, just do your research and figure out how you want the boost to come on, how much you want to make, and what your future plans may be.
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Unfortunately that is usually the outcome of threads like this, everyone gives you their opinion of what they think is best...and the person trying to make a decision is more confused. All three of the systems you are looking at are great systems. We have been doing Forced Induction on these cars for a long time, and have used all three on various builds, and have many happy customers running each of the styles. When someone asks me which s/c to go with...I cannot tell you one is necessarily better than the other...as they all will make great power on a stock hemi. It comes down to several factors.
- Goals for the car long and short term-is it a daily driver, is this going to be the only power mod or do you plan on further upgrades in the future, do you plan to road race or drag race it etc..etc
-Personal Taste- some people just like the look/feel of one system vs another
-Budget - A Complete Satin Voretch system starts at about $5200 shipped while a Poliched Magnacharger is $7500, and everything else can fall in between. So budget is important in the decision process.
-Powertrain Warranty- this is an important consideration to alot of folks just looking to add some additional power, it this is important only the Maggie and Vortech stay in the running as they offer this as an option...depending who sells/installs the system.
Those are just some of the questions, once answered can point you in what may be the best direction for you and your build. I would be happy to answer any questions you have about any of the systems mentioned, and help you in any way possible.
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