The reason the Audi is taking so long is because the 2011s are no longer a V8, they are going to be a twin turboed v6. I have one of the last v8 S5s coming in tomorrow, this is the last of them so I guess the wait you're having is for the v6.Man I'd like to know where you guys are finding these dealers selling them below sticker. I paid sticker and had to fight for that. I've bought many new cars in my day so I know what I'm doing. The two dealers I went to both said they would not budge off sticker. There is a dealer in Ft Wayne IN that's asking 68k for his. I was happy just to pay sticker. I had an Audi S5 ordered since January but they kept pushing the production date back so I told them to cancel. This dealer did give me 4k more on the trade than Audi so I guess it was a wash in the end.
go to cars.com and e-mail every dealer who has a car within 100 miles....there was around 10 of them for me...they e-mail back w/ their offers...take your best 3 and bargain back and forth a bit...typically i get the best price with in 8 hours......when i bought my car i was on the way to purchase and drove past another white IE on the way...it was not on cars.com....it was the exact same car(same options)....they beat the price and i bought from them...Man I'd like to know where you guys are finding these dealers selling them below sticker. I paid sticker and had to fight for that. I've bought many new cars in my day so I know what I'm doing. The two dealers I went to both said they would not budge off sticker. There is a dealer in Ft Wayne IN that's asking 68k for his. I was happy just to pay sticker. I had an Audi S5 ordered since January but they kept pushing the production date back so I told them to cancel. This dealer did give me 4k more on the trade than Audi so I guess it was a wash in the end.
There is a dealer in Oklahoma that wants 85500 for a white IE....
They told me the issue was the titanium package. For some reason they could get the titanium wheels and nothing else. I did not want the car without that package and I am kind of glad now. I thought the Audi would be a head turner but this car gets more attention than anything I've owned before. Of course the interior is deff not up to Audi standards but I can live with it for now....
Dealer holdback is $1399--over 3%.Mine was 52,500 with their 2500 value add on. I bought it $1000 under MSRP over a week of negotiations. They know someone will walk in and buy it as they only had one. Dealer hold back is Circa $1400, Dealer profit is $2600 at MSRP. Plus they get 1% of financing from the Credit Unions for sending the business which does not effect your rate.
im sure there's alot to running a dealership....lots of bodys walking around..all doing something...the place cant look shabby, it must be remodeled every few years..all this costs $Dealer holdback is $1399--over 3%.
At MSRP dealer profit for an IE is closer to $4000--9%.
Name any industry that provides a 9% profit margin for as much effort...
$5k over MSRP is over 20% profit--if they can get it--outrageous.
I've gotten the impression from researching the Challenger over many dealers for the past year that some dealers must think that even their sh!t is gold. The problem is there's always another sucker with too much money that comes along and validates those dealer's way of thinking...
While I agree for the ordinary business in a free market, I lose all empathy for businesses that have legislated protection for themselves and carved themselves a monopoly position. If I could place an order directly with the factory and pay factory pricing, dealers would not even have to deal with people that know exactly what they want and can get it directly. They would be like Best Buy. You can by a Dell from them, or you can go directly to Dell if you don't need to feel and touch it first to decide what you want. You know there's a markup if you buy from Best Buy--it's obvious they are a middle-man, but you (arguably) get the benefit of one-on-one interaction with a (hopefully) knowledgeable salesman to help you decide what will meet your needs, and a local place to return for help if there are problems.im sure there's alot to running a dealership....lots of bodys walking around..all doing something...the place cant look shabby, it must be remodeled every few years..all this costs $
if i dont make 10% profit in my business i dont take the job..i typically make 20-35% profit....yea Walmart can survive on 2% profit, but smaller businesses need REAL profit and 2% doesnt cut it....
its the sellers job to get everything he can...its the buyers job to get it for as cheap as possible...if the dealer wants to charge $5k over sticker let him...right now it means 1 of 2 things....1. he doesnt want to sell the car or 2. he's looking for a sucker
if that sucker never comes the dealer may be stuck with the IE into the 2012 model year
Also: I qualified it with "as much effort".im sure there's alot to running a dealership....lots of bodys walking around..all doing something...the place cant look shabby, it must be remodeled every few years..all this costs $
if i dont make 10% profit in my business i dont take the job..i typically make 20-35% profit....yea Walmart can survive on 2% profit, but smaller businesses need REAL profit and 2% doesnt cut it....
its the sellers job to get everything he can...its the buyers job to get it for as cheap as possible...if the dealer wants to charge $5k over sticker let him...right now it means 1 of 2 things....1. he doesnt want to sell the car or 2. he's looking for a sucker
if that sucker never comes the dealer may be stuck with the IE into the 2012 model year