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I've been reading a lot but still have questions. It would be for my 2014 auto RT.
1. I understand a 85mm will help even stock engines with throttle response. What one'shave had the best user results?
2. How hard or long is install.
3. Besides disconnecting the battery any other install procedure?

I want to do this and cold.air intake in the same day then cut outs and muffler swap later down the road.
Finally end it when I can find a good dyno tuner.
 

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Look into Fastman TB's. You can send him your stock TB and he will port it for you. Supposedly better than aftermarket TB's and a lot cheaper. Install is fairly simple, just removing the intake tube and he 4 bolts from the TB.
 

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Look into Fastman TB's. You can send him your stock TB and he will port it for you. Supposedly better than aftermarket TB's and a lot cheaper. Install is fairly simple, just removing the intake tube and he 4 bolts from the TB.
I sent mine to Fastman last year to get the standard front only mod done on mine. It was only a week turn around to get it back. If you can not have your car down that long, call him and have him send you one that is already modified. I have not had any problems with it. It is a real easy swap, remove the intake tube, unplug the connector then remove four bolts. But be careful putting the bolts back in because they screw into plastic.
This modification to TB plays real nice with a tune. I would do both because it will really wakes up your car.

The stock 80MM body has plenty of flow for the 5.7.

5.7L 6.1L 6.4L Hemi V8 Throttle Bodies - The Fastman
 

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I sent mine to Fastman last year to get the standard front only mod done on mine. It was only a week turn around to get it back. If you can not have your car down that long, call him and have him send you one that is already modified. I have not had any problems with it. It is a real easy swap, remove the intake tube, unplug the connector then remove four bolts. But be careful putting the bolts back in because they screw into plastic.
This modification to TB plays real nice with a tune. I would do both because it will really wakes up your car.

The stock 80MM body has plenty of flow for the 5.7.

5.7L 6.1L 6.4L Hemi V8 Throttle Bodies - The Fastman
I know i'm alittle late but thanks. So the fastman basic wont require a tune correct? I understand I'll benefit the most from one however.

Eventually I would like to get a fender pull intake, fastman TB and a Trinity hand held tuner to finish the car off.
 

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I know i'm alittle late but thanks. So the fastman basic wont require a tune correct? I understand I'll benefit the most from one however.

Eventually I would like to get a fender pull intake, fastman TB and a Trinity hand held tuner to finish the car off.
You are correct on not needing a tuner when having the TB modified. But your stock intake box is designed very well and it does pull cold air in from behind the grill and flows good. All you need to do is get a intake tube from a new charger, and maybe a different drop in air filter. Then to really wake up the engine, get a custom tune from Johan. The charger intake tube does not have the ugly wart on it, this way you will have room for a catch can.
 

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I've been reading a lot but still have questions. It would be for my 2014 auto RT.
1. I understand a 85mm will help even stock engines with throttle response. What one'shave had the best user results?

IMO the amount of money to go from 80 to 85mm with no other mods is a waste of money, if you want to improve your throttle response just do a resonator delete kit or a full cat back, it's amasing what an exhaust upgrade can do, I would not recommend the resonator delete kit if the car is a non stp car, the non stp cars have 2 1/4 inch pipe with cheap little mufflers and most people that have done the resonator delete don't like the drone. If the car has the super track pack it has 2 1/2 inch pipes with 2 bottle style glass packs, removing the resonators really open up the 5.7 but there still will be some drone, just get a good kit, the 6 speed cars benefit the most with this inexpensive mod, if you go with a full cat back get one with an H pipe instead of the X it improves your torque a little over the X. This is JMO because I have already done it and noticed the throttle response right away and the sound is great and it didn't cost anywhere near what a 85mm TB cost.
 

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You are correct on not needing a tuner when having the TB modified. But your stock intake box is designed very well and it does pull cold air in from behind the grill and flows good. All you need to do is get a intake tube from a new charger, and maybe a different drop in air filter. Then to really wake up the engine, get a custom tune from Johan. The charger intake tube does not have the ugly wart on it, this way you will have room for a catch can.
Even the 2014 RT? I read the SRT's basically come with a CAI. Just the tube and filter swap would be as beneficial on my RT?

I've been reading a lot but still have questions. It would be for my 2014 auto RT.
1. I understand a 85mm will help even stock engines with throttle response. What one'shave had the best user results?

IMO the amount of money to go from 80 to 85mm with no other mods is a waste of money, if you want to improve your throttle response just do a resonator delete kit or a full cat back, it's amasing what an exhaust upgrade can do, I would not recommend the resonator delete kit if the car is a non stp car, the non stp cars have 2 1/4 inch pipe with cheap little mufflers and most people that have done the resonator delete don't like the drone. If the car has the super track pack it has 2 1/2 inch pipes with 2 bottle style glass packs, removing the resonators really open up the 5.7 but there still will be some drone, just get a good kit, the 6 speed cars benefit the most with this inexpensive mod, if you go with a full cat back get one with an H pipe instead of the X it improves your torque a little over the X. This is JMO because I have already done it and noticed the throttle response right away and the sound is great and it didn't cost anywhere near what a 85mm TB cost.
Know how I can tell? It honestly looked like my piping went from 2 1/2 to 2 1/4 at one point but i'll have to inspect more. I already have the resonators gone and am considering putting them back and deleting the mufflers now that I have cut outs installed.
 

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tuner and up the throttle boost for better throttle response. Might as well load the 91 canned tune and reduce tq mgmnt while your at it. That you will notice. Reso delete for throttle response, not so much.
 

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tuner and up the throttle boost for better throttle response. Might as well load the 91 canned tune and reduce tq mgmnt while your at it. That you will notice. Reso delete for throttle response, not so much.
Does the 91 tune reduce tq management automatically or do you have to manually reduce it and if so how much is optimal?
 

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Does the 91 tune reduce tq management automatically or do you have to manually reduce it and if so how much is optimal?
The 91 tune decreases the torque management by default and the 93 tune decreases even more from what I understand.

I have a 91 tune installed and I noticed a significant decrease in torque management. I am going to get a custom email tune and try to have all of the torque management removed.

You can't decrease the torque management manually as it is not part of the Diablo trinity's user's interface. It has to be done by someone with the CMR software.
 
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The 91 tune decreases the torque management by default and the 93 tune decreases even more from what I understand.

I have a 91 tune installed and I noticed a significant decrease in torque management. I am going to get a custom email tune and try to have all of the torque management removed.

You can't decrease the torque management manually as it is not part of the Diablo trinity's user's interface. It has to be done by someone with the CMR software.
I have a custom tune from Johan, and I will say that when you ate on the throttle you will not feel any torque management. The difference it like night and day. The nice about the tune is when you are driving around in town or driving easy, the trans shifts nice and easy. But when you want to have fun, just stand on the throttle. :)
 
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