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His name is Dan and goes by "THEONE" on the boards, here's a link to his profile; Dodge Challenger Forum: Challenger & SRT8 Forums - View Profile: THEONE
In this for sale thread, http://www.challengertalk.com/forums/f17/f-s-stage-ii-procharger-46981/ , he's selling his Procharger supercharger, and a bunch of other stuff, as he was trading in his car to get a 392. Since I was looking at doing FI in the next couple of years and his set-up hadn't gotten any offers to buy, I started asking some questions in this thread and then moved it to PM's where we agreed to a deal, we also spoke on the phone.
Everything progressed as it should, including him calling me too say that he went to ship it and because it was all in one big box it would be $200+ and that he was going to break it down into several smaller boxes to save some shipping expense, which I thanked him for.
I kept in contact with him and also let him know early that I was ordering parts that would be needed for the install, some of them rather expensive, and to let me know when it would ship and how he wanted to receive the money.
Well that's the last I heard from him until push came to shove and after a week plus of not hearing anything I sent a PM inquiring about what was going on. You see, his profile was showing that he was logging in everyday, PM'ing members and commenting in threads but he wasn't returning any of mine. So he sent me a message stating that he had changed his mind and was going to keep it.
Well isn't that interesting news as we both gave our word and committed to a deal, and I already ordered parts for the system, which he was PM'd about well before the radio silence happened, and another member had been looking for a Stack Bullet CAI which I committed to sell him as it wouldn't be needed on my set-up anymore.
I attempted to reason with him that we had agreed to do business and based on our commitment I had made purchase decisions, that he was informed of, that would now cost me shipping, restocking fee's if any, and return shipping, but worst of all I would now have to break my word to another fellow member who agreed to purchase my Bullet CAI.
He again said sorry, he'd changed his mind and that he didn't tell me to go buy anything. I had to cancel my CAI sale to the other CT member, who was not at all happy and I don't blame him, and now have around $700 worth of stuff ordered that is going to cost me either way. I had also put another financial decision on hold due to this sale, again which he knew about when we agreed to commit to the deal, and now the opportunity to resurrect that has passed.
I thought for several days about whether I should post this or not as it's not something I like doing and is just plain uncomfortable. But in the end we're only as good as our word, both on this board, in our life and especially given what we do for a living. In the end his actions sticking me with financial losses and breaking his word was enough for me to call this out and make sure it doesn't happen to someone else on the board, as he's still on here and posting/selling.
I will post the PM's just below this so there can be no BS excuses offered by him if he so chooses to post in here. His last PM after telling me, sorry I changed my mind and didn't tell you to go buy anything and also asking what he could do too make it right.
Sorry Dan, but your word is worth squat after what you pulled and you should be embarrassed for asking anyone to trust you further after your behavior. Just wrong...
Justin
Point of clarification is in order here:
My deal to sell the Bullet CAI to the other form member was conditional on me receiving the supercharger and was clearly stated up front to the buyer, still sucks though. When it became available he could also pass on the CAI if anything had changed for him and I would just list it for sale on the forum, this all became irrelevant however due to THEONE reneging on the sale of his Procharger.
I thought I had followed the forum rules for posting PM's from a sale gone wrong (not posting any personal info such as addresses, phone #'s and email addy's) when I posted them below. After having read the general rules in another section I now realize that posting them is not allowed. My apologies for missing that one. THEONE's own posting later in this thread clearly state in his own words what he did anyway...
In this for sale thread, http://www.challengertalk.com/forums/f17/f-s-stage-ii-procharger-46981/ , he's selling his Procharger supercharger, and a bunch of other stuff, as he was trading in his car to get a 392. Since I was looking at doing FI in the next couple of years and his set-up hadn't gotten any offers to buy, I started asking some questions in this thread and then moved it to PM's where we agreed to a deal, we also spoke on the phone.
Everything progressed as it should, including him calling me too say that he went to ship it and because it was all in one big box it would be $200+ and that he was going to break it down into several smaller boxes to save some shipping expense, which I thanked him for.
I kept in contact with him and also let him know early that I was ordering parts that would be needed for the install, some of them rather expensive, and to let me know when it would ship and how he wanted to receive the money.
Well that's the last I heard from him until push came to shove and after a week plus of not hearing anything I sent a PM inquiring about what was going on. You see, his profile was showing that he was logging in everyday, PM'ing members and commenting in threads but he wasn't returning any of mine. So he sent me a message stating that he had changed his mind and was going to keep it.
Well isn't that interesting news as we both gave our word and committed to a deal, and I already ordered parts for the system, which he was PM'd about well before the radio silence happened, and another member had been looking for a Stack Bullet CAI which I committed to sell him as it wouldn't be needed on my set-up anymore.
I attempted to reason with him that we had agreed to do business and based on our commitment I had made purchase decisions, that he was informed of, that would now cost me shipping, restocking fee's if any, and return shipping, but worst of all I would now have to break my word to another fellow member who agreed to purchase my Bullet CAI.
He again said sorry, he'd changed his mind and that he didn't tell me to go buy anything. I had to cancel my CAI sale to the other CT member, who was not at all happy and I don't blame him, and now have around $700 worth of stuff ordered that is going to cost me either way. I had also put another financial decision on hold due to this sale, again which he knew about when we agreed to commit to the deal, and now the opportunity to resurrect that has passed.
I thought for several days about whether I should post this or not as it's not something I like doing and is just plain uncomfortable. But in the end we're only as good as our word, both on this board, in our life and especially given what we do for a living. In the end his actions sticking me with financial losses and breaking his word was enough for me to call this out and make sure it doesn't happen to someone else on the board, as he's still on here and posting/selling.
I will post the PM's just below this so there can be no BS excuses offered by him if he so chooses to post in here. His last PM after telling me, sorry I changed my mind and didn't tell you to go buy anything and also asking what he could do too make it right.
Sorry Dan, but your word is worth squat after what you pulled and you should be embarrassed for asking anyone to trust you further after your behavior. Just wrong...
Justin
Point of clarification is in order here:
My deal to sell the Bullet CAI to the other form member was conditional on me receiving the supercharger and was clearly stated up front to the buyer, still sucks though. When it became available he could also pass on the CAI if anything had changed for him and I would just list it for sale on the forum, this all became irrelevant however due to THEONE reneging on the sale of his Procharger.
I thought I had followed the forum rules for posting PM's from a sale gone wrong (not posting any personal info such as addresses, phone #'s and email addy's) when I posted them below. After having read the general rules in another section I now realize that posting them is not allowed. My apologies for missing that one. THEONE's own posting later in this thread clearly state in his own words what he did anyway...
