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I have seen a few guys complain of 219A popping up after mods...myself included. The tuning community usually says to check for exhaust intake leaks (intake manifold bolts like to loosen on these engines). In my case the 219A did not show up until after my cam swap and only showed up after the ambient temps dropped. Drove the car from end of summer to fall with no issues. For me the only time it shows up is when I cruise down the highway...never came on while driving through the city. The other day I noticed signs of an exhaust leak at my header collector seal which I plan to address when the weather gets warmer. Anyways, just throwing it out there.
^Yes, for sure.

OP - what repairs/parts have they tried to this point? Do you have that info? If easier send me the last 8 of your VIN and I'll take a look.
 

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I have seen a few guys complain of 219A popping up after mods...myself included. The tuning community usually says to check for exhaust intake leaks (intake manifold bolts like to loosen on these engines). In my case the 219A did not show up until after my cam swap and only showed up after the ambient temps dropped. Drove the car from end of summer to fall with no issues. For me the only time it shows up is when I cruise down the highway...never came on while driving through the city. The other day I noticed signs of an exhaust leak at my header collector seal which I plan to address when the weather gets warmer. Anyways, just throwing it out there.
Thank you for sharing your experience!!1

The tech supposedly checked the bolts after I mentioned I noticed some leaking. I will double check again to make sure he completed this. I wish the CEL came on due to mods, LOL! It's pretty stock.
 

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^Yes, for sure.

OP - what repairs/parts have they tried to this point? Do you have that info? If easier send me the last 8 of your VIN and I'll take a look.
Yes! Here you go:
First visit - Swapped bank 1 ignition coils and spark plugs to bank 2. Cleared DTC, recommended me to drive in similar conditions (highway)
2nd visit - Swapped fuel injectors from bank 1 and bank 2 for diag purposes, replaced all fuel injector o-rings, cleared DTC.

If it helps anything.... it's an a8. :/
 

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Here is more info on the P219A DTC. Note compression imbalance is listed as one of the possible causes.

Hopefully it is not lifter/cam related as I have read a couple of posts from the ram guys that it was a worn down cam lobe. This guy had it happen to his 392.
 

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Here is more info on the P219A DTC. Note compression imbalance is listed as one of the possible causes.

Hopefully it is not lifter/cam related as I have read a couple of posts from the ram guys that it was a worn down cam lobe. This guy had it happen to his 392.
Thank you so much for sharing - i will read these and speak to my advisor and tech and report back!

And yes they replaced my evap canister during the 1st work order.
 

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Yes! Here you go:
First visit - Swapped bank 1 ignition coils and spark plugs to bank 2. Cleared DTC, recommended me to drive in similar conditions (highway)
2nd visit - Swapped fuel injectors from bank 1 and bank 2 for diag purposes, replaced all fuel injector o-rings, cleared DTC.

If it helps anything.... it's an a8. :/
If injectors were switched between banks w/no change then you most likely do have a small vacuum or exhaust leak somewhere.

Questions:
How many miles on it now?
Are they charging you for the work or have they done it under warranty/goodwill since you're barely out?
Have they done a fuel system treatment/cleaning?
What part of the country are you in?


ChallyTatum - the diag lists compression difference as a poss cause and they've already checked it fyi, but cam/lifter issue can't be ruled out.
 

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ChallyTatum - the diag lists compression difference as a poss cause and they've already checked it fyi, but cam/lifter issue can't be ruled out.
I thought they identified cylinder 3 was higher than the rest according to OP's comments in post #6? Could it be exhaust lifter on cylinder 3 is not opening the valve fully? Although if it did not I would expect the engine to run a little rough or throw a misfire code.
 

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If injectors were switched between banks w/no change then you most likely do have a small vacuum or exhaust leak somewhere.

Questions:
How many miles on it now?
Are they charging you for the work or have they done it under warranty/goodwill since you're barely out?
Have they done a fuel system treatment/cleaning?
What part of the country are you in?


ChallyTatum - the diag lists compression difference as a poss cause and they've already checked it fyi, but cam/lifter issue can't be ruled out.
It has approx 44xxx miles on it right now. I'm not sure if they're going to charge me, Rob from DodgeCares helped me open up a case and I have followed up but the case specialist has not reached out to me personally yet. Not sure how these things work. They haven't done a fuel system treatment/cleaning. When I initially felt the "misfire" some time ago (way before any codes were thrown), I added some sea foam to the gas tank to see if it would help but it didn't, lol. I'm in California.
 

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I thought they identified cylinder 3 was higher than the rest according to OP's comments in post #6? Could it be exhaust lifter on cylinder 3 is not opening the valve fully? Although if it did not I would expect the engine to run a little rough or throw a misfire code.
Cold start this morning produced some noises... will share shortly with details of what the dealer has tried. :D
 

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After leaving the car overnight, the tech put in new o2 sensors and had me authorize them test driving the car around to see if it helps. I got an update at night saying "everything looks good so far". This morning..... kind of a different story. Please take a listen to the video below and tell me what that sounds like:

 

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Cold start this morning produced some noises... will share shortly with details of what the dealer has tried. :D
Man, I really hope it is not anything mechanical otherwise you may be without your ride for a while. I have read Ram and Charger owners with P219A had issues ranging from PCM required a new flash file (per a TSB) to one of the piston pins missing the pin retain (looked like it was missed during assembly) and the pin moved scoring the cylinder wall.
 

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After leaving the car overnight, the tech put in new o2 sensors and had me authorize them test driving the car around to see if it helps. I got an update at night saying "everything looks good so far". This morning..... kind of a different story. Please take a listen to the video below and tell me what that sounds like:

That does not sound good at all. The clack..clack......clack..clack....clack..clack sounds like it might be the lifter/cam after all. Very interested to hear what the mechanic says.
 

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It has approx 44xxx miles on it right now. I'm not sure if they're going to charge me, Rob from DodgeCares helped me open up a case and I have followed up but the case specialist has not reached out to me personally yet. Not sure how these things work. They haven't done a fuel system treatment/cleaning. When I initially felt the "misfire" some time ago (way before any codes were thrown), I added some sea foam to the gas tank to see if it would help but it didn't, lol. I'm in California.
Hi stphzy, I'm very sorry to hear that. Please follow up with me via DM at your earliest convenience if your case manger has not reached out to you yet.
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That does not sound good at all. The clack..clack......clack..clack....clack..clack sounds like it might be the lifter/cam after all. Very interested to hear what the mechanic says.
Agree. Not a good sound at all. Irregular too.

Knowing if it was coming from under a valve cover, or from inside the block and in what area, would be of some interest but I'm not asking for this. The tech though needs to determine as best he can where the noise is coming from and I'm sure he will make this determination.

Don't want to pull a head or two if the noise is coming from say something in the exhaust system rattling around. (I had a car that one converter knocked at cold start and sounded just like the deep low volume knock a rod can make. Then when up to temp buzzed like crazy.)
 

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After leaving the car overnight, the tech put in new o2 sensors and had me authorize them test driving the car around to see if it helps. I got an update at night saying "everything looks good so far". This morning..... kind of a different story. Please take a listen to the video below and tell me what that sounds like:

You've got a valvetrain issue, sorry to hear it (literally). The cam and/or lifter possible cause of a P219A fault seems to be more valid at this point.

Not that I need to say this BUT time to get it back to the dealer, again sigh. Suppose the 'good' news is if a valvetrain problem has now fully developed, the P219A shouldn't come back after that gets fixed.

As always, keep us posted.
 

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That does not sound good at all. The clack..clack......clack..clack....clack..clack sounds like it might be the lifter/cam after all. Very interested to hear what the mechanic says.
Agree. Not a good sound at all. Irregular too.

Knowing if it was coming from under a valve cover, or from inside the block and in what area, would be of some interest but I'm not asking for this. The tech though needs to determine as best he can where the noise is coming from and I'm sure he will make this determination.

Don't want to pull a head or two if the noise is coming from say something in the exhaust system rattling around. (I had a car that one converter knocked at cold start and sounded just like the deep low volume knock a rod can make. Then when up to temp buzzed like crazy.)
You've got a valvetrain issue, sorry to hear it (literally). The cam and/or lifter possible cause of a P219A fault seems to be more valid at this point.

Not that I need to say this BUT time to get it back to the dealer, again sigh. Suppose the 'good' news is if a valvetrain problem has now fully developed, the P219A shouldn't come back after that gets fixed.

As always, keep us posted.
Thanks all! It's currently at the dealer and the tech just called to let me know that I will need to authorize a tear down. Since it's literally 2 days out of warranty due to me not being able to get an appointment sooner, I will have to talk to my case manager. Please pray for me, I'm so scared of this being a crazy amount of $$ and it looks like luck is not on my side.
 

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Hi stphzy, I'm very sorry to hear that. Please follow up with me via DM at your earliest convenience if your case manger has not reached out to you yet.
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Thank you Rob! I got in touch with my case manager in the afternoon yesterday. We are currently working it out. Thanks for following up - always appreciate your follow up!
 

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No promises, but 2 days out? I'm confident they'll work w/you on this. Your mileage is pretty low too.

Hang in there, I think this will work out.
 

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If I were the dealership I would start off by looking at bank one, specifically cylinder #3 (the one that had the highest compression). Removing the valve cover should show them right away if the rockers are moving correctly. Good luck!
 
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